New Tyres

[Ant 2]

I've got to get 4 new tyres for my 205... Its going to be used for road and track use..

 

Not sure what to go for.. P5000, P6000 and Toyos are are similar priced.. about £40 each fitted

 

these are 195/50/15

 

The garage does have 45s in, but ive never heard of the name.

 

Any views on what to go for - 195/50/15 or 195/45/15

 

The cost aint a lot different

 

Cheers

[Banjo 1]

195 50 toyos, P6000s are poo.

[Guest CB-Dave]

45's will give sharper turn in due to the smaller profile height but 50s are closer to the OE 185x55x15 tyre size.

 

Pays your money and takes your chance really, 45's are 4.79% smaller than OE, 50's are 1.45% smaller than OE and 205x50x15's are 0.26% bigger than OE. What it means in the real world is that smaller tyres make the speedo read higher than it should do (so 70mph *if* your speedo ever reads dot on accurate, which they don't - would equate to 70.18mph on 205x50's, 68.99mph on 195x50s and 66.65mph on 195x45s in real life.)

 

You would probably be at the limit putting 205x50's on a 6" wide wheel (iirc the speedlines are 6J's anyway, might be 6.5 - can't quite remember offhand) although they are ok for a 5.5" wide wheels so again, pays cash takes chances (that's according to the wheel & tyre bible anyway)

 

I'm half and half between going for some 185x55's to keep it OE, or maybe 195x45's to have a bit of a laugh round corners, the detriment of stiffer sidewalls is that the 'limit' is more defined, if you've got big floppy balloon sidewalls they will have more give in them than smaller stiffer ones, and given the propensity in which gti's can swap ends, it is probably a good thing to have the extra insurance policy with a higher profile.

 

Hope this is of help

 

oh another thing, don't get P5000 drago's - they're undenieably wank... I had a pair of 195x50s on the front of my 205 and they lack feel and response... horrid tyres that really should only be put on cars that have a mysterious black box between the steering column and rack that eliminates all driver feedback.

 

(so Vauxhalls then, really!)

[j_turnell 137 3 Cars]

Goodyear Eagle F1's 195/50's by far the best tyre ive used, wouldnt use anything else after having them.

[littlemike 0]

Directional tyres on track aren't ideal as you can't swap them around left to right -although I have and the car seemed fine

[boombang 2]

I also wouldn't go for anything maed by Toyo for track use - in my experience far too soft.

[jonD6B 0]

You will probably benefit more by paying the extra for a decent tyre rather than a lower profile IMO. Goodyear F1's are highly regarded on here, however, I'd consider Pilot Sports or P Zero's also.

[hengti 2]

to add to CB-Dave's comments -

the ride will be harsher on 45s too - not a consideration for track work, but might be for the road

it'll also accelerate quicker on the 45s - but at the expense of in gear top speeds - effectively lowers the gearing

 

can't imagine they make a massive difference in any of these departments though

 

do you know what make/model the 45s are? i know yoko do the A539 (not alot of people's favourite tyre! - but i like 'em) in 45. also seen some highly suspect looking 195/45/15 things that keep popping up on ebay - can't remember what they're called, but think they might be related to yoko somehow - they look more like a 'fashion' tyre to me

[Ahl 4]

Goodyear Eagle F1's 195/50's by far the best tyre ive used, wouldnt use anything else after having them.

I can't agree with that enough. I've had T1-S and T1-R Toyos and they are rubbish in comparrison.

My Eagles also lasted a LOT longer, so they even worked out cheaper mile for mile.

[Guest smokinslim]

I'm half and half between going for some 185x55's to keep it OE, or maybe 195x45's to have a bit of a laugh round corners, the detriment of stiffer sidewalls is that the 'limit' is more defined, if you've got big floppy balloon sidewalls they will have more give in them than smaller stiffer ones, and given the propensity in which gti's can swap ends, it is probably a good thing to have the extra insurance policy with a higher profile.

Probably explains why my suspension feels pretty harsh on rough roads then with 195/50s on 7j15 rims, they don't half grip well though.

 

Decent brand 195/45s tend to be more expensive and harder to come by than 195/50s as there is much less call for them, quite possibly for the above reasons at a guess.

[huckleberry 0]

195/45/15 is the size for a 106. So you might find yourself a set of wheels with tyres from a 106 at the same cost of just new tyres if you want those.

 

I guess Peugeot designed the car with 185-55 for a reason but I think they make the car look like having bicycle wheels. And they cost a bloody lot compared to the 195-50s that are used on a lot of cars besides Peugeot.

 

I'd go for 195-50 for all reasons above together. Cheaper, look better, more choice etc.

[roland rat 11]

i think you should save and by the eagles.im running 185/55/15 f1's on my car and i havent unstuck it yet even with some *spirited* driving! call me old fashioned but as tyres are the only thing that is in contact with the road id rather spend that little bit more money on tyres.i can always eat next week or sell a kidney!lol