macamizer 0 Posted May 2, 2006 lower engine mount for xm turbo conversion,do you have to lenghten it or can you keep it std? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonofsam 5 Posted May 3, 2006 Lower engine mount fork?Lengthen it by 15mm . btw a good search will bring up most questions asked about this conversion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
inferno 1 Posted May 3, 2006 i used the standard gti engine mount and intermediate bearing... no need to lenthen anything Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
macamizer 0 Posted May 3, 2006 wot do you mean by intermediate?heavy duty or sumfin,also wot top engine mount did tou use by the way?will the 19 gti one do with an extra bit welded on? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alastairh 47 Posted May 4, 2006 What inferno means, (or how i under stood it). Use the engine mount (fork off a 205 with no lengthening) and the main mount with the intermidant beaing (the 11mm nut bit that the drive shaft goes through) off a normal 205. Alastair Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ant 2 Posted May 4, 2006 i had to lengthen mine. The engine sat too far forward from the mount. As sam said, about 1.5 cm. Not a hard job if you have a welder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex G 0 Posted May 4, 2006 i had to lengthen mine. The engine sat too far forward from the mount. As sam said, about 1.5 cm. Not a hard job if you have a welder. me too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fuqa 0 Posted May 4, 2006 yup lengthen lower fork by 10-15mm, and use the 1.9 intermediate bearing braket. the xm bracket will look the same but your driveshaft wont go into the gearbox Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
inferno 1 Posted May 4, 2006 (edited) use an mi16 or bx16v top mount if u have the 4stud top mount type. if not u can use the complete mount from some 16v xantias? i have spare of either mount if you get stuck. I still dont see how you needed to lenthen the fork by 15mm, the only time ive come accross this is in some mi16 conversions, however my turbo engine did need a little persuasion to go onto the top mount. Edited May 4, 2006 by inferno Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackherer 543 Posted May 5, 2006 I still dont see how you needed to lenthen the fork by 15mm, the only time ive come accross this is in some mi16 conversions, however my turbo engine did need a little persuasion to go onto the top mount. there is more room in a zx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malachy 0 Posted May 5, 2006 (edited) there is more room in a zx i am fitting the turbo lump into a 306cab which is same as a zx, and yes you can get the bottom fork in but its a hell of a squeeze and lots of shoving + sweating, i decided to lenthen mine just a little because its just to damn tight for my liking Edited May 5, 2006 by Malachy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonofsam 5 Posted May 5, 2006 ,also wot top engine mount did tou use by the way?will the 19 gti one do with an extra bit welded on? I actually used the 1.9 top mount to start with,it does fit just to the side of the block,you have to change the cam covers and as you said weld a bit on or make up a bracket.it did'nt need the lower engine mount extended either to fit and clear MC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
inferno 1 Posted May 5, 2006 why didnt you say 306!!! in order to fit mine in the zx i had to remove part of the metel around the steering columb mount and reweb it, otherwise the turbo hits it... i didnt move the bottom mount... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malachy 0 Posted May 5, 2006 (edited) why didnt you say 306!!! in order to fit mine in the zx i had to remove part of the metel around the steering columb mount and reweb it, otherwise the turbo hits it... i didnt move the bottom mount... had to do that aswell. since the 306 is exactly the same chassis as the zx and xsara http://www.ocuk-motors.co.uk/gallery2/main..._serialNumber=1 that was what i cut out, then tidied it up & welded a u shaped plate in to strenthen it. i still found the bottom mount was tight or the top mount was tight so idecided to legthen the fork a little too this will give me a little more clearance at the bulkhead aswell (help with the closeness of coolant pipes too), although you will still need to cut. now my engine is in and i am happy with it, i am just sorting out a decat (cutting and shutting old cat) & stainless exhaust system tomorrow (have one just needs some welding doing due to being from stock306not cab) and then hopefully early next week my Megasquirt 2 should be here so i can start on that, and then start mapping i hope to be running 1 bar of boost and am guessing i should see about 180 - 190 bhp maybe a little more not sure after what people are saying about the stock manifold. Edited May 5, 2006 by Malachy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ada205 2 Posted May 6, 2006 All this talk about extending the fork on the lower mount bracket's got me confused! Thought this was only required if taking the bodging route on mi's, and then only because of manifold clearance problems? Mine's an xm lump, and gone in a 1.6 gti, and all that was reqiured to make it fit was a Mi top mount, and to shorten the casting on the turbo housing that bolts to the heat shield, as this was fouling the bottom of the steering columb. Other than that, it was like dropping any xu in, as it should, as if theres no tightness up top, should mount no prob's as all basically have the same block. It's the wiring and piping that's the pain on this conversion!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonofsam 5 Posted May 7, 2006 maybe we should let macamizer decide for himself when the time comes,get the engine swinging on the top mounts and go from there. nowt wrong with a little bodge here and there. wiring's not as bad as everyone makes out, hell, if i can do it !! just make sure you do plenty of research on the subject before connecting stuff up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ada205 2 Posted May 8, 2006 maybe we should let macamizer decide for himself when the time comes,get the engine swinging on the top mounts and go from there.nowt wrong with a little bodge here and there. wiring's not as bad as everyone makes out, hell, if i can do it !! just make sure you do plenty of research on the subject before connecting stuff up Dont get me wrong mate, i aint knocking the odd bodge here or there, sometimes it's the only way! You've given me hope on the wiring, though believe me, if electrics involved, I'll cock it up, usually resulting with what was a nice thick loom of wires becoming one black, sticky lump of wire! I went to a lot of trouble to find a low milage engine on an early car without the key pad, so hopefully...... I do have back up though with an auto electrician over the road, which is handy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonofsam 5 Posted May 8, 2006 "Mechanical Adjustment" - smack it with a hammer "Large Adjusting Tool" - big hammer "Gaining Clearance" - The art of grinding bits off stuff to make other bits fit LoL Hope it all goes well for you might be worth a search on the earlier models wish i had an auto-leccy next door. Tanacity and confidence is what you'll gain from jumping in at the deep end. Sam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
