Richie 32 Posted April 27, 2006 Ok its a security issue. My car has a very old mechanical immobiliser on the gear stick. Its basically a big silver cylinder button, that you push into the gears when your cars in gear. Now, ive lost the key to this. I've called locksmith companies and local mechanics and they said theres nothing i can do. So what the hell, have i gotta scrap my car because my gears are locked in by this cylinder button device. (this doesn't go "over" the gear stick, its a button on the side, almost on the floor, and it takes a very unique small square key) any help would be nice ,thank u A very frustrated Rich Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob_the_Sparky 9 Posted April 27, 2006 Drill...nothign to loose if you are going to scrap the car if it doesn't come off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GLPoomobile 958 Posted April 27, 2006 Don't know anything about these but I would have thought that at the worst you can just remove the gear stick and either grind the piece of crap off or replace the stick with one from a scrappy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richie 32 Posted April 27, 2006 dunno, i was told it is the most awkward security device ever in the history of the world. And im sure the company doesn't exist anymore because this must be about as old as the car (17 years). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Veero 1 Posted April 27, 2006 There MUST be a way to remove the gearstick assembly to avoid scrapping the car. Drill/angle grinder/BFI usually work. What exactly is it connected to otherwise to prevent gears being engaged? Veero Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richie 32 Posted April 27, 2006 To be honest veero, im not sure how the thing works. I think it just slot's into the linkages maybe? You just can't move the stick at all. I've spoke to some people who seem to be confident its a case of taking the console apart and grinding into it to take it off which has made me a bit happier Aparently they were used on old fords. I'll post a picture of an A4 sheet later on that shows how it works (the original paperwork for it) Still a pain, they can't do it till saturday. Im just angry the local mechanics and locksmiths just couldn't be bothered to help and didn't wanna know. Cheers for the replies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dream Weaver 2 Posted April 27, 2006 It could be either a Dipol Gearlock or Barrier deadlock. If its into the tunnel, there isn't much under the car so you could grind it out by cutting the tunnel around it, then weld a plate in. If its near the gear lever, it can only go into the linkages underneath. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richie 32 Posted April 27, 2006 Its a barrier deadlock dreamweaver, im pretty sure that's what it says on the information sheet. Its like, its on the carpeted part that surrounds the stick below the leather gaitor. On the left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GLPoomobile 958 Posted April 27, 2006 Find a local scally, I'm sure they could get past it in no time! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rich_w 0 Posted April 27, 2006 I've got one of these devices, when I looked at it all I remember is that I didnt want to loose the keys as it looked a bitch to remove if it was 'locked'. I can't remember how it worked but there would be no need to remove the console, just the exhaust to get better access. Got any pic's? I will try to get a picture of mine latter (ooo errr). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richie 32 Posted April 27, 2006 The Barrier Deadlock System The Barrier Deadlock System is a permanently installed physical gearshift immobiliser which locks the vehicles gear selection mechanism into reverse, park or neutral. Innumerable attempts have been made to overcome this lock, and because the principal components are generally located underneath the vehicle, it is rendered as good as theft proof. The system has been attack tested by Thatcham, Sold-Secure, The Master Locksmiths Association, Top Gear, and others. It has gained industry recognition from the British Insurance Industry, the Police, the Ford Motor Company and General Motors Europe, and the Subaru Impreza Driver's Club. Cheshire, North Wales and Hampshire Police Forces use the device to protect their vehicles at crime scenes, and other forces are actively looking at the product for their vehicles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest rick03054 Posted April 27, 2006 If it goes on, it comes off. Has to be possible! because the principal components are generally located underneath the vehicle, it is rendered as good as theft proof. Have to go under the car then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
