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Toddman

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Toddman

I need some hard facts here folks :)

What are the differences between the cat and non cat mi engines?

I beleived it was mainly the CR which was due to lower height pistons and that the cams are the same but the pulleys are different and then of course the ecus vary.

I have now been told by an overseas member of BX 16v that the heads and cranks are different but sadly I only have D6C engines in pieces in my garage.

 

Can anyone point out the facts please.

 

Cheers

Luke

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Super Josh

Well, the parts CD only lists one type of head and crank for the XU9J4.

I believe it is all of the differences that you list, Luke. I was lead to believe that the valve springs are different, although the parts CD only lists one type :)

I can't see why Pugeot would use a different crank and head, when the compression is lowered with the pistons.

 

 

 

Josh

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B1ack_Mi16

Head and crank is definately the same.

The only physical difference is the pistons and inlet cam pulley.

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d-9

Whats different about the inlet cam pulley? Is it a different number, if so which one?

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Toddman
Whats different about the inlet cam pulley? Is it a different number, if so which one?

D6C has #4 inlet and #2 exhaust

DFW has #3 inlet and #2 exhaust

 

That is how I beleive it to be anyways :P

 

Cheers

Luke

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d-9

some D6Cs had no2 on both, my current one for example.

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B1ack_Mi16
some D6Cs had no2 on both, my current one for example.

 

As I've understood it most D6C have (2) pulleys on both cams, and some of them have the (4) pulley on the exhaustcam.

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Toddman
As I've understood it most D6C have (2) pulleys on both cams, and some of them have the (4) pulley on the exhaustcam.

Oh bugger :P

I have 2 standard heads here with #4 om inlet and #2 on exhaust.

 

I have heard that a few people have #2 om both though.

 

Cheers

Luke

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d-9

no4 inlet seems better (comparing my old engine with my new engine).

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B1ack_Mi16
no4 inlet seems better (comparing my old engine with my new engine).

 

Ok, that's probably right then, as I've never seen an (4) pulley, yet... :P

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petert

As said, the pulleys are different (for the better) but has less compression, 9.7:1. Well they're supposed to be, but are in fact closer to 9.5:1. There are small differences in the head castings. You can see a difference around the plug in the chamber between two different castings, but is more likely from different suppliers rather than a different head. I suggest you read this thread in regards to my opinions on using the various combinations of pulleys:

 

http://forum.205gtidrivers.com/index.php?showtopic=57143

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