Danxs 0 Posted April 2, 2006 i would like to make my 309 a touch quicker, i think the head gasket has gone on it, so i will be needing to take it apart. at the moment, its slow! what can i do thats efective, i am not on a mega tight budget, but cant afford throttle bodies or mappable managment at this stage. i have heard mixed opinions on cam's etc, anyone have any advice? i dont want to mi it either, for insurance purposes. thanks alot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SamGTi 0 Posted April 2, 2006 I know it's annoying but doing a search will tell you what you want to know. This subject is covered weekly! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danxs 0 Posted April 2, 2006 i did try a search, didn;t find much though, i'll have another look, thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob_the_Sparky 10 Posted April 3, 2006 That is because there isn't much more power to be had from an 8v. All the easy tuning options were done well by Peugeot I'm afraid. The only sensible way to more power is fit a 16v, if you try it with an 8v then the costs soon ramp up (I should know, having tried to get a little more power...) Rob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonmurgie 2 Posted April 3, 2006 Well if you HAVE to stick with 8v then you need to look at going Throttle Bodies/Carbs, Big valve Head and a stonking Cam.. then throw some decent engine management in the mix and your looking at the best part of £2500+ What budget do you have to spend here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danxs 0 Posted April 3, 2006 £1k max, i am not sure if it is running right at the moment, a friend has driven it, who has had a few 1,9 205's, and said it dosn't feel like a 1.9 should, i will do the gasket and see, its not worth a cam then, from what i can make out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonmurgie 2 Posted April 3, 2006 Why are you 'doing the gasket'? Just because it's not running quite right? That's jumping the gun a little I'd say! What mileage has the engine done and when was it last serviced? If it's not feeling right then it probably needs all the ignition parts replaced (leads/plugs/dizzy cap & arm etc.) as they can account for poor running. Also, I think you'd be surprised at how much it (doesn't) cost to declare an Mi16 engine in your 205 over a modded 8v engine! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danxs 0 Posted April 3, 2006 its leaking water everywhere, seems to be from the head gasket, going to double check tonight, see if its not a pipe there somewhere. . maybe i will have to consider an mi then....! thanks for the advice though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob_the_Sparky 10 Posted April 3, 2006 Dead head gaskets very rarely leak water outside the engine. They blow between the water and a piston when they go so start looking closely before taking the head off, it not a likely reason for hte leak (although not impossible). Rob P.S. From what I can tell of my experience, if you are going to mod an engine then the insurance don't care that much if it is a mild or large mod, it is still an engine mod and that will limit your choice of insurer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dodsworth_gti 11 Posted April 3, 2006 you probably bust a pipe somewhere,just because it is comeing from that area,doesnt mean it is,water runs along things dont forget,mine had a pin hole in a pipe which was just under a jubilie clip that lashes out loads water!!!so check well!!! if you want power and you only have a k to spend,i would do a full service to start,including plugs and leads and poss a new dizzy cap,then slap some bike carbs on it,or cam with a chip!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danxs 0 Posted April 3, 2006 ok, thanks, is a 285 too big, with a chip, or not? will try and get to the bottom of the leak tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dodsworth_gti 11 Posted April 3, 2006 mines got a 285 in it and it does its job!!!not sure about chip e.c.t,but probs would be better,but you would get away with just getting a re-map! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danxs 0 Posted April 3, 2006 did you get yours remapped when you had it cammed, how much did it cost? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huxley309 0 Posted April 4, 2006 (edited) You cant map the 8v ecu except for the motronic 3.1 and then it means a trip to wayne at chipwizards He had his mapped because he has a mappable ecu with throttlebodies that can handle any changes much better A mappable ecu would be about £600 plus loom/mapping etc Edited April 4, 2006 by huxley309 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob_the_Sparky 10 Posted April 4, 2006 plus rolling road costs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banjo 1 Posted April 4, 2006 Water is most likely coming from the inlet manifold gasket if its on the front. Ben Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dodsworth_gti 11 Posted April 4, 2006 i didnt have mine mapped at all,i did all mine in one go,so with the carbs e.c.t,i got away with not mapping it!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
