timmsy19 3 Posted March 23, 2006 hi guys i might have myself a 1.6gti phase 1 on a D plate 1987. main question is will it have the nessesary plugs and stuff on the fuse/relay board for the electric window and central lock gear i got in my motor. ive currently got the whole lot from the windows right up to the fuse/relay board Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pug_ham 244 3 Cars Posted March 24, 2006 Probably not have the wiring, I don't think they were even an option on the phase 1 205 1.6 GTi until after the 1.9 GTi started being made. I don't think the fuse box is different though. Dash swaps are easy as the plugs fit straight over so maybe the holes for the central locking & electric windows will be there. Graham. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timmsy19 3 Posted March 24, 2006 ive got all the wiring all the way from the switch up to the fuse board so if it does then i should be ok Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest smokinslim Posted March 24, 2006 Have a look at the fuseboxes, if they're the same (or at least have the same sockets in them) then it may well be a straight swap Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KaspaCti 0 Posted March 26, 2006 I've been pulling my 1987 D reg CTi's dashboard apart today to see what wiring is in place for my planned electric window and central locking upgrade. I was quite surprised to find that all the wiring was in place upto the connectors under the dashboard on the passenger and drivers side (i.e. connectors in the fuse box etc.). The only bit missing is the door looms. So with a bit of luck you should only have to plug the door looms in and make sure you've got the electric window relay plugged in. As you've got the door looms I'd be grateful if you could tell me which wires go to which pin on each of the electric window switches. I've got the Haynes manual diagram so I know which wire numbers go to each switch, but Haynes doesn't show which pin each wire goes to. Haynes shows the following wire numbers: Electric window switch - drivers side: 92 m2 m1 96 97 Electric window switch - (passenger) drivers side: 92b m4 m3 94 96 Electric window switch - passenger side: 92a 94 96 96a 94a What I need to know is which pin on the relevant switch does each wire connect to? Sorry to hijack your question but I've searched for a definitive answer on the forums and not had any luck so any help would be much appreciated! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timmsy19 3 Posted March 26, 2006 to be really honest i just pluged mine in only fitted in one way. the only ones that dont are the e/l window switches. the drivers side i got wrong and the swicthes are arund a diffrent way but thats it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KaspaCti 0 Posted March 26, 2006 Cheers timmsy19, The problem is I haven't got the door looms (only the wiring under the dash) so I'll be making the door looms up from scratch. Hence it would be useful for me if someone could look at the original door looms and tell me which wire numbers (i.e. 92, m2 etc etc) go to which actual pin numbers on the switches, would save me a lot of trial and error and probably a few fuses as well Just thought that as you were in the middle of doing this and had the looms too hand, you might be able to match up the wire numbers listed in my previous post with the pin numbers on the window switches No worries if you can't help I'll just crack on and see how it goes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timmsy19 3 Posted March 26, 2006 sorry mate not got them to hand as i havnt seen my car for 2-3 weeks proably just abit of trail and error will do it mate. might take longer tho. Graham Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KaspaCti 0 Posted March 27, 2006 I've been pulling my 1987 D reg CTi's dashboard apart today to see what wiring is in place for my planned electric window and central locking upgrade. I was quite surprised to find that all the wiring was in place upto the connectors under the dashboard on the passenger and drivers side (i.e. connectors in the fuse box etc.). The only bit missing is the door looms. So with a bit of luck you should only have to plug the door looms in and make sure you've got the electric window relay plugged in. As you've got the door looms I'd be grateful if you could tell me which wires go to which pin on each of the electric window switches. I've got the Haynes manual diagram so I know which wire numbers go to each switch, but Haynes doesn't show which pin each wire goes to. Haynes shows the following wire numbers: Electric window switch - drivers side: 92 m2 m1 96 97 Electric window switch - (passenger) drivers side: 92b m4 m3 94 96 Electric window switch - passenger side: 92a 94 96 96a 94a What I need to know is which pin on the relevant switch does each wire connect to? Sorry to hijack your question but I've searched for a definitive answer on the forums and not had any luck so any help would be much appreciated! Think I've sussed it The wiring for the central locking is self explanatory using haynes. I've been using Haynes for the wire numbers and a French manual called 'revue technique' for the electric window switch pin outs. You might think that Haynes wiring diagrams aren't great but the french manuals are on a different level of incomprehensible Anyway using school boy french and a magnifying glass I think this is the electric window switch wiring. Electric window switch - drivers side: 92 Pin 3 m2 Pin 4 m1 Pin 2 95 Pin 1 97 Pin 5 Electric window switch - (passenger) drivers side: 92b Pin 3 m4 Pin 4 m3 Pin 2 94 Pin 1 96 Pin 5 Electric window switch - passenger side: 92a Pin 3 94 Pin 2 96 Pin 4 96a Pin 5 94a Pin 1 I haven't wired this up yet so it hasn't been tested, but I'm fairly sure it's right. Hopefully this will be of some use to others making up their own door looms. Obviously if it all goes up in flames I'll let you know Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timmsy19 3 Posted March 27, 2006 (edited) let us all know when you do as this stuff is good info. one of those topics the mods can link to when somebody brings this up again Edited March 27, 2006 by timmsy19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KaspaCti 0 Posted March 28, 2006 let us all know when you do as this stuff is good info. one of those topics the mods can link to when somebody brings this up again Will do, still waiting for a couple of bits off ebay before I can get started Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
