rich_w 0 Posted March 20, 2006 I'm looking at the VEM ECU (www.vems.hu). One of the input's it can deal with is EGT (cost wise it isn't that much!) Is this worthwhile to use or not worth brothering with? I have googled and have a mixed feeling about it... I am going wideband lambda anyway...your thoughts please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonmurgie 2 Posted March 20, 2006 EGT is much more important on Turbo applications as it's a very quick way of knowing if your getting det and the engine is going to blow! I don't think it's that essential on a N/A car like the 205... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrSeuss 0 Posted March 20, 2006 VEMS is a hectic ecu. Its amazingly flexible but its so complex. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rich_w 0 Posted March 20, 2006 Thanks Jon! DrSeuss, have you looked at the website recently? The documention has improved quite a bit in the last week (maybe 2!). There's appears to be a couple of peple who have fitting the ECU to pugs...one of them that has some info on the wiki was a 87 309 gti...I have found a refence to a S16 engine... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cybernck 402 1 Cars Posted March 21, 2006 i was going to suggest the gauge i'm planning to get . you should get it especially if you're getting the VEMS full ecu. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rich_w 0 Posted March 21, 2006 I don't think i need the gauge if EGT is no use to me on a NA appilcation (i might fit the EGT bits if I ever fit a turbo!) I will be getting the LCD display - this shows the lambda voltage (like the guage). I wonder what the egoC: stands for... Its all fun The VEMS needs a lot of reading up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d-9 0 Posted March 21, 2006 I thought the individual EGT per cylinder was used when mapping to detect pinking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cybernck 402 1 Cars Posted March 21, 2006 the gauge i suggested is a wideband lambda + egt (+ aux input) gauge, not just egt gauge though . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rich_w 0 Posted March 21, 2006 The gauge looks like it shows lambda voltage, not the actual AFR? That gauge is quite expensive, at this stage I don't think I need one... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cybernck 402 1 Cars Posted March 22, 2006 they're reprogramming the firmware to show AFR, it should be ready soon . yes i know, i've just been suggesting it as it's way cheaper than other combinations of WBO2 + EGT gauges and sensors . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rich_w 0 Posted March 22, 2006 must.....not...buy.....one Cybernck you know some of the developers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cybernck 402 1 Cars Posted March 22, 2006 i got in touch with them because i'm interested in one but i actually managed to secure a very nice discount for a group buy of gauges. i've got some more info about the gauge itself and i'll post about the group buy in the group buys forum soon. thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rich_w 0 Posted March 22, 2006 I look forward to it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrSeuss 0 Posted March 26, 2006 Dave of DP engineering is heavily involved in the VEMS ecu project. Pieter Oonicx told me of the gauge's imminent arrival a while ago. But its not massively competitive, working out only slightly cheaper then the innovate kit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rich_w 0 Posted March 26, 2006 The VEMS has the wide band controller built in - it just requires a driver for the the heater control (about £1) from what I understand. DrSeuss, what do you mean by the 'innovate kit'? The kit with the sensor, controller + guauge? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrSeuss 0 Posted March 26, 2006 I mean the LC-1 with XD-1 gauge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cybernck 402 1 Cars Posted March 26, 2006 drseuss> true, but it gets MUCH cheaper with the discount . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites