Guest Andy205GTX Posted March 9, 2006 Right, forgive the school boy nature of this post (I'm not even sure if it's in the right place) but I am still fairly new to car and the whole 205 family. Heres the run down: I have a 205 GTX (think XS but injection engine if you don't know it), and its new tyres time! due to this I think nows a good time to upgrade from the 13" steelies to some Gti alloys, I am looking into getting some 1.6 alloys. My question is; are all 205 wheel nuts the same or will I have to get new wheel nuts to get the 1.6 alloys onto my car? (out of curiosity, could anyone answer the same question but regarding 1.9 alloys aswell). Sorry if it sounds retarded, but I couldnt find anything off it when searching and like I said; I am new to it all. Thanks in advance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base-1 17 Posted March 9, 2006 You will need new ones, GTi alloys have flat-faced bolts, steels have 60° tapered seats. 1.6 boltheads are longer as the recess in the wheels are deeper, but you can use either 1.6 or 1.9 bolts for either wheel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Andy205GTX Posted March 9, 2006 Ok, so is there any difference between the 1.6 and 1.9 bolts? did you mean 1.6 bolts are longer than 1.9 or standard bolts? Thanks for the quick reply! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pug_ham 244 3 Cars Posted March 10, 2006 Ok, so is there any difference between the 1.6 and 1.9 bolts? did you mean 1.6 bolts are longer than 1.9 or standard bolts?Yes, there is a difference between the 1.6 & 1.9 GTi wheel bolts, both are longer than the standard steel wheel bolts. The thread is the same size & length on the 1.6 & 1.9 GTi bolts but the hex head is longer on the 1.6 GTi bolts because they are recessed deeper into the wheel. Standard steel wheel bolts have shorter theads & shouldn't be used on the GTi alloys. If you fit aftermarket wheels you'll need the correct type of bolts to suit those rims, either taper seat or flat faced ones. Graham. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Andy205GTX Posted March 10, 2006 Crystal Clear! Thanks very much all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Andy205GTX Posted March 11, 2006 Right, I have some 1.6 alloys and nuts (and a pair of 10mm spacers). The front alloys go on fine with no need for spacers (tyres stick out ever so slightly but probably due to having 195 tyres on). But I have a problem fitting the rear alloys; the tyres on the rears are 185, but when I put them on the car (without spacers) the tyres are about 1cm away from rubbing on the rear arms (sorry about my poor terminology), this is so close and could potentially rub with weight in the car. So to overcome this I need to use the spacers on the rear, but in doing so there is hardly any thread length on the wheel nuts, I don't think it would be safe to attach the wheels using such little thread. So due to all this I have a few questions: Has anyone else encountered similar problems fitting 1.6 alloys to non-Gti 205? Is it safe to attach the wheels with such a small length of thread on the nut? Is it possible to get wheel nuts with a longer thread length that would allow me to use spacers on the rear safely? This is pretty urgent, I need help, so replies tonight would be greatly appriciated! Cheers Andy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackherer 543 Posted March 11, 2006 if there is some clearance between the wheel/tyre and the rear arms then thats all you need, the wheel isnt going to move relatively to the arm so it wont touch it. if, however, you mean the wheel is close to the bodywork then thats probably due to a knackered rear beam. you need to use longer bolts with spacers, or the other option is studs and nuts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Andy205GTX Posted March 11, 2006 Yeah, its the rear arm I meant, there is no issue with the body work. it is the tyre that is close to the rear arm, and I was thinking if I had weight in the back then they tyres would take the weight and expand in width, surely this would risk contact with the rear arm? Also what tyre pressure should I have with these 1.6 wheels? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Andy205GTX Posted March 12, 2006 Its all sorted now, just been down to quick fit for balancing and they say the rears should be fine with the arms. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pug_ham 244 3 Cars Posted March 14, 2006 Also what tyre pressure should I have with these 1.6 wheels?Handbook says 28psi all round. Graham. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mak 0 Posted March 14, 2006 Graham I remember you posting ages ago the name of a company that supplied the bolts on the cheap, any chance you remember who they were? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pug_ham 244 3 Cars Posted March 14, 2006 Graham I remember you posting ages ago the name of a company that supplied the bolts on the cheap, any chance you remember who they were?If you mean the people I got the studs conversion kits through its all mentioned here. Graham. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
