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Phase 1.5 With 180a Engine

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Guest Sonny

Hi there

 

I found a scrappy GTI 1.6, from late 1987, with new face-lifted panel and facia ( a phase 1.5, I guess...) but with a 180A engine in it. I think the engine has been swapped at some point of its life..

 

I know the main diference between the 180A and B6D engines is the head with bigger valves in the B6D, but what else? Which parts are not compatible between the two models?

 

My car is a late 1989 1.6GTI with BE3 gearbox, BTW....

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Regards

Alexandre

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Guest Sonny

What about parts like radiator, inlet manifold, AFM, ECU, and such things?!

 

Anyone? :D

 

Thanks...

 

Regards

Alexandre

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Jonmurgie

Sorry but I've never heard of a '180A' engine... a quick search in google gives mostly foreign results, though it appears to be an XU5J engine, though I personally don't know anything about those either!!

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Miles

I think that engine is the old 105bhp one used until 1986, You can use this engine with all your current bit's with the swaping of the Inlet (If you use a coil mounted one) bar that it's pretty much like for like bar the power loss

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Guest Sonny

Hi..

 

In fact the 180A is the engine code for the XU5J engine from the first spec 1.6 GTI with 105 bhp...

 

But I think I did not make myself clear enough :D

 

My interest is in the ancilliars like the inlet manifold, radiator, dizzy, AFM, ECU, coil, etc etc... not the engine it self!! But I am not sure if this kind of ancilliars can be swapped from a 180A engine to a B6D...

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Regards

Alexandre

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pug_ham

I'm faily sure they will all swap across with no problems, but the distributor might differ with different advance settings, the ecu is a different number.

 

The AFM should have the same number as you have from the B6D engine; 0 280 202 056.

 

Might be best to get the part numbers from the AFM & ECU on the car with the 180a engine fitted & post them up so we can cross check them.

 

Graham.

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Guest Sonny

Thanks Graham...! ;)

 

The ECU number ended in 340, this I remember...

 

Regards

Alexandre

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pug_ham

205 GTi 1.6 litre 87-90 Bosch LE Jetronic 0 280 000 340.

 

What number is fitted to your car now?

 

Graham.

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205 GTi 1.6 litre 87-90 Bosch LE Jetronic 0 280 000 340.

 

What number is fitted to your car now?

 

Graham.

 

My car has the same ECU number (0 280 000 340) and same AFM number (0 280 202 056) as well!

 

Which led me to conclude that the scrappy car has been engine swapped, from a B6D to a 180A, but the ECU and AFM didn't...

 

Regards

Alexandre

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pug_ham

I agree, it looks that way.

 

Everything should fit on to it from your car.

 

You could swap the head & cam from your B6D engine across & have the later spec engine.

 

Graham.

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I agree, it looks that way.

 

Everything should fit on to it from your car.

 

You could swap the head & cam from your B6D engine across & have the later spec engine.

 

Graham.

 

Well, I'm buying the whole car for spares, after all...

 

Thanks for the tips.

 

Regards

Alexandre

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