Those With Throttle Bodies On An Mi16

[Jonmurgie 2]

Couple of basic questions:

 

1. Where did you move your oil filler to?

2. Where did you plumb in the oil filler breather pipes, or have you had to run an catch tank?

3. Where did you move the dip stick to?

 

That's all that I can think of for now...

 

Cheers

Jon

[Alastairh 47]

Tried looking at the guide on the site?

 

Alastair

[Jonmurgie 2]

nah, can't be bothered....

 

OK, fair enough that answers a couple, what about the breather pipes?

Edited January 9, 2006 by Jonmurgie

[engine killer 6]

i don't quite understand your question but here are my answers

 

1. no need to move it

 

2. catch tank

 

3. (the dip stick, you mean that long strip of metal to measure level of engine oil) no need to move it neither

[Jonmurgie 2]

i don't quite understand your question but here are my answers

 

1. no need to move it

 

2. catch tank

 

3. (the dip stick, you mean that long strip of metal to measure level of engine oil) no need to move it neither

 

Thanks for your reply, though your right you don't seem to understand the question as you HAVE to move the oil filler and the dip stick to fit Throttle Bodies

[Dream Weaver 2]

I will get some pics for you later John, but basically:

 

1. I bought some thick oil pipe, which was then split into 2. The first part comes off the block at the bottom, and is then joined to the second part of hose - this goes into the bottom of the std filler pipe bit, and that is bolted at an angle to the top of the gearbox, over the starter motor.

 

I only bought new hose, cos both the old ones I had were knackered - i took the mesh out of the std filler neck, so it now just acts as an oil filler.

 

2. The breather pipe from the block, next to the oil filler one stays as normal and travels back up to the std filler neck. The breathers from the filler cap and the rocker cover run into a catch tank situated high up near the expansion tank/battery.

 

3. The dipstick I just bent round to the right and the locating tabs fit neatly under the thermostat housing - bit of an arse measuring the oil now, but it seems OK.

 

I'll take some close up pics for you later on, though I dont know if my setup works perfectly yet as although the car is now running, its not on the road yet due to exhaust bolt issues (here)

Edited January 9, 2006 by Dream Weaver

[16v205 9]

I made a little 'L' shape bracket up and used one of the gearbox bolts to hold it in place. The 'L' bracket fits upside down so it comes up then forwards towards the radiator. The oil filler just bolts onto this bracket using the original hose's.

 

As for a catch tank I needed one on the last engine, but since ive rebuilt this one very very little oil comes out, even on track. I will be fitting the catch tank again though just because ive got one really. I took the oil breather from the top of the oil filler cap straight to the catch tank and the catch tank vented to air with a filter. Although it wasnt included I cut and fitted a strip of foam in the tank to try and catch a little more vapour.

 

The Dipstick tube can be rotated towards the thermostat housing and it clears the inlet manifold. Its a bit tight but all should be fine.

 

Cheers

Rich

[engine killer 6]

sorry, i really have misread you questions, reading the filter as filler.

 

actually, i have the catch tank modified to work as a filler. the breather hose connected to one of the hole from the catch tank, the other hole connected with a breather filler. a small medium size pipe was welded to the bottom of it, so vapour escapes from the breather and oil goes back to the engine (ideally).

[easypug 0]

1. Where did you move your oil filler to?

As seen in the picture below, i had a little metal bracket that came up from one of the bolts that holds the starter on.

2. Where did you plumb in the oil filler breather pipes, or have you had to run an catch tank?

As in pics

3. Where did you move the dip stick to?

Twisted around to where you see it in the pic

 

Mine, without catch tank

 

Mates S16 with own (home made) catch tank

[Super Josh 4]

Dave, a few questions on your mates install....

What ECU is he running, as it still looks like he is using the individual coil packs?

The little blue manifold in the centre of the engine, with the red hoses coming out of it. Is this for idle control?

Is it a GTi6 lump? As it has the oil filler cap in the rocker cover?

 

 

Cheers Mate,

 

Josh

[Jonmurgie 2]

Thanks for the pics, your mate's S16 is a super smooth install there, though I see your bother running very short trumpets... have you tried longer ones?

[easypug 0]

Dave, a few questions on your mates install....

What ECU is he running, as it still looks like he is using the individual coil packs?

The little blue manifold in the centre of the engine, with the red hoses coming out of it. Is this for idle control?

Is it a GTi6 lump? As it has the oil filler cap in the rocker cover?

Cheers Mate,

 

Josh

 

Its running an Omex 500 (i think thats the lower spec one), i know he had a problem with the coil pack used in that pic. I'm not sure what he done to overcome it as i hadn't seem him till recently and he was busy showing me his new flat.

 

Blue manifold type thing is some thing to do with the NOS, don't know what its called as i've never looked into NOS (at the moment )

 

Thanks for the pics, your mate's S16 is a super smooth install there, though I see your bother running very short trumpets... have you tried longer ones?

 

I will be running longer trumpets with my new engine not sure on exact lengh at the moment as i don't even know the spec of the engine i've got. I would imagine that i'll start off with 90mm and see how i go from there. Saying that though it made 188bhp with those trumpets on i would say at a guess they were about 40mm. My mates car is more than likely going to be reborn as a turbo from what he says so can't comment on trumpets sizes for him.

[Mongo 0]

Its running an Omex 500 (i think thats the lower spec one), i know he had a problem with the coil pack used in that pic. I'm not sure what he done to overcome it as i hadn't seem him till recently and he was busy showing me his new flat.

 

Blue manifold type thing is some thing to do with the NOS, don't know what its called as i've never looked into NOS (at the moment )

I will be running longer trumpets with my new engine not sure on exact lengh at the moment as i don't even know the spec of the engine i've got. I would imagine that i'll start off with 90mm and see how i go from there. Saying that though it made 188bhp with those trumpets on i would say at a guess they were about 40mm. My mates car is more than likely going to be reborn as a turbo from what he says so can't comment on trumpets sizes for him.

 

I have 75mm trumpets on mine and with the 100mm internal height and 125mm external height the slam panel had to be slightly trimmed....

 

http://www.yamr1.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/car/205engine.jpg

[Guest BiFf]

Couple of basic questions:

 

1. Where did you move your oil filler to?

2. Where did you plumb in the oil filler breather pipes, or have you had to run an catch tank?

3. Where did you move the dip stick to?

 

That's all that I can think of for now...

 

Cheers

Jon

 

 

1. Temporarily i've spun round the hose so it sit's forward and tiewrapped this ti a bit of the slam panel. Eventually I'll get some proper oil hosing and some alloy piping to make something a little more aesthetically pleasing. Apparently when I spoke to a guy at Raceparts in Wallingford he was saying regular silicon pipe will corrod if used for oil applications and it needs some special coating stuff on it so I was looking into that but it ain't cheap!

 

2.Until I get my catch tank fitted I use the good old tried and tested coke bottle and bit of hose method of venting. Trouble is I'm finding it difficult to find a spot for the catch tank. I might have to move the battery to the boot, or get a red flash or something :s

 

3. The dip stick I bent round and have it poking out of one side of the inlet manifold. Seems to work

 

Hope this helps, I'll try to get some piccys for you at some point

 

BiFf

[Dream Weaver 2]

My catch tank sits between the expansion tank and battery as below:

 

 

Will get some better pics of it all later on.

[Jonmurgie 2]

Cheers for that, looks spot on

 

Great looking engine bay you have there... mine's very very dirty!!

[Dream Weaver 2]

Its even nicer now the wiring loom has been tidied up.

[Dream Weaver 2]

John, just taken some close up pics for you, hope they help.

 

 

 

 

 

[base-1 17]

 

Thats a pic of my filler cap halfway through putting current engine in, just a piece of Samco and I used the standard inlet manifold steady bracket on a starter bolt to hold the filler in place, works a treat

 

For breather pipes, i used the std hose to connect the rocker cover to the sump, except I turned it "upside down" and ran it to the standard filler-overflow connection, you can see it in that pic. For a temporary and cheap catch type tank I have a Powerade bottle (adds power....) on another piece of hose coming off the filler cap vent. Dipstick just twisted round to the right, again you see in the pic just to the right of cyl 1 trumpet.

 

 

Dave,

 

Does he run the nitrous like that? That gotta to be one of the worst gas install's I've seen

[Jonmurgie 2]

Excellent pics, thanks guys... will see what I can cobble together

[easypug 0]

Hi rich - long time no speak/see. Yeah he runs it like that (nothing like injecting pure NOS into the chamber ), can't remember who fitted it to be honest. I'm thinking PTS but not 100% on that, I do know that it caught fire not long aftre he got it back!

[Adam B 0]

Base-1 careful using the samco hose like that (unless its an oil specific one) as they will break down if left in oil for any period of time. Does look good though! More blue the better!

[Jonmurgie 2]

To be honest Adam I'd say that pipe hardly holds any oil... though I know what you mean as they do specific pipe with an extra liner for use with oil

[Dream Weaver 2]

Quite a bit of oil does circulate though from the block breather back into the oil filler pipe, so there will always be some oil travelling down the filler pipe.

[base-1 17]

It's not specific oil stuff no, I saw this at last years Autosport show on a random stand and just got it for the job! I'll do something about it eventually, however I'm lazy and rubbing on the radiator is doing it more damage I expect

 

Dave - caught fire? Nice! Tell him to sort it out, probably mincing his engine slowly but surely....