bobs205 0 Posted December 31, 2005 Hi i'm fitting a 2ltr mi with a 1.9 crank and want to fit my 1.9 head on to the block.what head bolt do i use in the top left because it has a different depth compared to the rest? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easypug 0 Posted December 31, 2005 Would you not be able to use the spacer as normal? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobs205 0 Posted December 31, 2005 Easypug the 2ltr's use a different tread and are shorter than the 1.9's the 2ltr's also don't have the spacer's like the 1.9's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easypug 0 Posted December 31, 2005 Sorry i meant use the normal spacer as on the 8v/16v. Maxi has a 1.9 head on a 2.0 bottom end so will know the answer to this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrSeuss 0 Posted December 31, 2005 out of curiosity why are you so keen to use the 1.9 head? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobs205 0 Posted December 31, 2005 (edited) DrSeuss i want to use the 1.9 head because it has a lot of work done to it and if i used the 2ltr head i'd have to change the exhaust manifold and down pipe and there is a hole in the end of the head for a oil return that i'd have to block.Plus i'd have to drill and tap a hole in the end for the dizzy Edited December 31, 2005 by bobs205 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrSeuss 0 Posted December 31, 2005 fair enough, to answer your question. I think my mate is doing this afaik the s16 has no spacer but you can use a headbolt from an xu10j2 engine (bought singly from pug) As it is 10mm longer then the s16 bolts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maxi 36 1 Cars Posted January 1, 2006 fair enough, to answer your question. I think my mate is doing this afaik the s16 has no spacer but you can use a headbolt from an xu10j2 engine (bought singly from pug) As it is 10mm longer then the s16 bolts The S16 headbolts all have spacers!!!!!! When my engine was put together matt used a diesel headbolt machined to fit. I wasnt there when it was done so I dont know the exact crack with it, you will have to ask him. Just for reference the S16 headbolt spacers are more like washers, about 3-4mm thick. Maxi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hilgie 16 2 Cars Posted January 1, 2006 Correct. I used the thick Mi16 spacers with machined 1.9TD diesel headbolts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pug309twin40s 1 Posted January 1, 2006 when i did daz's engine with 1.9 mi16 head onto s16 bottom end we used 9 normal 2lt bolts and 1 1.9mi16 bolt for above the water pump. we tried the TD bolts and they weren't long enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B1ack_Mi16 67 Posted January 1, 2006 when i did daz's engine with 1.9 mi16 head onto s16 bottom end we used 9 normal 2lt bolts and 1 1.9mi16 bolt for above the water pump. we tried the TD bolts and they weren't long enough. How can you use the 1.9 Mi16 bolt abowe the pump, it's got M11 threads, and iron blocks are M12... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobs205 0 Posted January 1, 2006 I no that there is a differance in the tread's like B1ack_mi16 said any one got any clue's as to why the diesel bolt need's to be machined and what need's to be done i can get any machining done by my old man Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B1ack_Mi16 67 Posted January 1, 2006 I no that there is a differance in the tread's like B1ack_mi16 said any one got any clue's as to why the diesel bolt need's to be machined and what need's to be done i can get any machining done by my old man I have the same diesel bolts that Hilgie has.. And the problem is that the bolt-head is 1mm too wide in diameter to be able to enter the Mi16 head. So I just put them in a lathe at university, and reduced them 1.5mm diameter, they now enter fine... Then just use the standard Mi16 spacers on all the bolts except the one above the waterpump-housing where you just use a standard washer, if not that bolt won't get deep enough into the block. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pug309twin40s 1 Posted January 1, 2006 How can you use the 1.9 Mi16 bolt abowe the pump, it's got M11 threads, and iron blocks are M12... hmm maybe it was an 8v 1 then. but it had the same thread pattern as the 2lt 16v bolts but was same length as the 1.9 mi16. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrswampy 0 Posted January 3, 2006 yeah but when you did that head didnt you have probs getting it torqued down properly and a good compression. ^^^^^ towards pug309twin40s Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pug309twin40s 1 Posted January 3, 2006 yeah but when you did that head didnt you have probs getting it torqued down properly and a good compression. ^^^^^ towards pug309twin40s no that was on his old bottom end. and it was torqued down properly but just crap compression on 2 cyls which is why he got another s16 bottom end of miles and we fitted that with the same cyl head and its got good compression now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easypug 0 Posted January 4, 2006 Posted by MatSav: Nov 22 2005, 07:24 PM Std S16 head bolts & Washers except 1. The odd headbolt was sorted by machining a XUD head bolt down and making a washer to fit ( it was all we had at 5:30 on a saturday night!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobs205 0 Posted January 4, 2006 I've found out another way to do it today i was talking to a bloke i no who is a engineer and a weekend single seater racer said that he can machine the headbolt area down on the higher one in the corner so i can just use the 2ltr headbolt's any one else think this will work i can't see any problem's? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
