Roll Cage Installation Pic's

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

We've been installing a basic cage into a Race 205 were prepairing at the moment, So I thought I;d post a few pic;s of whats been done so far to give you all a idea of what can be done,

 

Another couple of Pic;s

 

Some more

 

and again

 

dito

[B1ack_Mi16 67]

Looks very good.. I'm starting to regret I didn't put some more tubing to stiffen the front more

 

But I didn't know whether the Mi16 engine would go clear of the pipes (same as you have put in the bay) so just dropped it...

[Butler 0]

Proper

[smckeown 1]

that tube looks small in diameter ? plus why is there no door bars ?

[B1ack_Mi16 67]

So I thought I;d post a few pic;s of whats been done so far to give you all a idea of what can be done,

 

_so far_

 

About the diameter, I think to get it approved for racing use by FIA the main hoop must be 45mm diameter, and the other pipes must be 40mm. I can't remember the wall-thicknesses anymore, but looks like it's 45 and 40mm pipes that's beein used.

Edited December 12, 2005 by B1ack_Mi16

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

The cage isn;t finished yet, Just a progress report. The tubes are all Blue book diameter, Main hope 48mm from memory and in CDS tube, The bracing can be done in anything as it's not spec'd in the book, We have a old Golf in at the moment and the Cage Dia in that is quite small in comparsion

[niklas 1]

I think the cage looks spot-on!

Gave me a lot of good ideas about stiffening the front.

Also good to see the rear tubes actually connects to rear beam mount. I don't understand those who DON'T do this...

[markrnorton 0]

Very nice Miles, looks quality.

[Hilgie 16 2 Cars]

Nice work. Is a heater going to be fitted to this car?

[Pugnut 9 1 Cars]

thats quite an impressive set up for the front struts/ bulkhead .

 

 

thats going to be one solid car!

[pug_ham 244 3 Cars]

Looks great, not much could mess with that & win.

 

Graham.

[Sam 4]

I think the cage looks spot-on!

Gave me a lot of good ideas about stiffening the front.

Also good to see the rear tubes actually connects to rear beam mount. I don't understand those who DON'T do this...

 

 

afaik its for hillclimb regs, the cage isn't allowed to connect directly to the suspension mounting points.

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

Got around to fitting the Passenger side Door bars and seat mounts today, It's off to the paint shop tomorrow for spraying so I'll have the completed pic's on Fri/Sat all being well

 

Thanks for the comments, this car is going to be very rigid, Our old one which was similar to this was great to the extent you could drive on 3 wheels (Aka old Citroen's).

 

Next cage will be my 306 which is going to be a challenge as it's having more bracing inside!!

 

But as Black's said I can;t understand why people don;t pick up on the suspension points, This is one of the main points of a cage installation

[Martin@PRD 0]

The wonders of a tube notcher!!!, good work there miles, though isn’t welding French galv. steel a pain then seam weld when it contaminats the welds?, are you planning to seam weld the shell?

 

Another good point for strengthen is the front, bracing the chassis legs with the same cross section you used for the door bars.

 

No more squeaks or rattles!!!!!

Edited December 13, 2005 by Martin@PRD

[markrnorton 0]

But as Black's said I can;t understand why people don;t pick up on the suspension points, This is one of the main points of a cage installation

 

I think that it's down to the regs within each race series, the series i'm entering next season allows cage to pick up suspension points, only downside is ANY additional bulkhead penetrations puts you straight into class A. Not sure if it's worth the sacrifice, class C to class A !!! ??? - thats playing with the big money big boys

 

M

[Sam 4]

How much does the "basic" cage cost

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

The basic cage supply is £250.00 (6 Point) and fitting is £250.00, For the cage as shown your looking around the £1000.00 mark.

 

I know with the Reg's you can get away at the rear by saying it's a seat belt mounting, I did this in my old 309 and got away with it as it's saftey related!!

[Dj_mini 7]

Miles what do make them out of just seamless mild steel?

[Powers 13]

I like the layout of the cage.

It is of very similar design to what the French boys use. So it must be good. I am however suprised buy the price!

[sekim 0]

The basic cage supply is £250.00 (6 Point) and fitting is £250.00

Do you sell the cage by itself? Is it bolt or weld in? Does it have a rear diagonal and door bars?

 

20 questions

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

The cage is made from CDS (Seemless steel) and normal tubing for the bracing points as it's lighter,

Yes we do sell the cage on it's own, but as there's loads of different combo's you need to cut allot of the tubing to size, but if your around pop down as we have the car until Saturday

[twowheelterror 0]

afaik its for hillclimb regs, the cage isn't allowed to connect directly to the suspension mounting points.

 

 

you 're right sam.

 

Having a cage linking the front and rear suspension points in the eyes of the rules makes the car a spaceframe chassis.

Severely limits what the car can be entered in

[easypug 0]

Any finished pictures of this Miles? Quite interested in seeing them if there are.

 

Dave

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

Dave

 

The car's gone to be painted and should be back Mid/Late Jan next year, But we do have a matching car if you want to have a look.

[Henry Yorke 269 3 Cars]

You could attach the exhaust manifold onto the bit that comes through the bulkhead and save having to get an exhaust

 

There was a rumour that Henri Toivenen's Lancia Delta S4 had nitrous secretly stored in the roll cage tubes and that was one of the reasons his car tragicaly caught fire, however I very much doubt this would have ever got past the scruitineers!