Gti Suspension

[Guest Bigj]

I'm building a 1400 endurance rally car based on a 205 XS

 

I know a fair bnit about the gti/xu car but not a lot about the tu engined cars.

 

Will the suspension from a 1.6/1.9 gti fit a standard XS.

I'm pretty sure it won't but I need confirmation.

 

If it won't fit whats the reason why?

 

Changing hubs etc. isn't an option as the running gear has to be standard

 

J

[Sam 4]

If you mean purely shocks and springs then yes it will fit ok

 

arb/droplinks/wishbones can be fitted with a subframe swap

[jacobs53 0]

You can fit gti suspension all round including hubs, ARB, wishbones!

 

arhhh why didn't someone tell me, just gave away hubs and wishbones from a gti

 

Just out of intrest then will the TU drivehshafts fit the 1.9gti hubs?

 

lee

[James H 0]

TU shafts won't fit 1.9 hubs, only 1.6 hubs.

[twowheelterror 0]

the struts and springs will fit no problems... thats the set up i've got.

 

not sure why you'd want to change the subframe for a gti setup as the TU stuff give you a wider track..

[Sam 4]

But it doesn't use wishbones two wheel terror. wider track isn't everything

 

GTI setup is much better, i will be changing to the gti setup eventually....

 

you can use TU hubs, the bottom ball joint fits fine

[Ted 0]

what kind of work is involved in changing the subframe?

 

any welding etc?

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

Can you not bend the rules a bit and say it's based on the Euro Rallye? due to them running the GTi running gear as you'll gain vented front disc's too

[Guest Bigj]

Can you not bend the rules a bit and say it's based on the Euro Rallye? due to them running the GTi running gear as you'll gain vented front disc's too

I can indeed do that Miles but I need to have the log book from a euro rallye

 

You don't happen to have one do you ?

 

what I really need is a written off Euro Rallye and log book so that I can build a clone car.

I can use the twin carbs too which would be nice.

 

Did they make any RHD Euro spec Rallyes?

All the ones I have seen have been LHD

 

John

[Adam B 0]

Nope they were all LHD.

So the rallye in this country doesn't use the GTi setup then?

[Gary 2]

So the rallye in this country doesn't use the GTi setup then?

No .

 

EDIT: Is the car going to be lower with gti springs and shocks?

Edited February 24, 2004 by Gary

[Guest Bigj]

EDIT: Is the car going to be lower with gti springs and shocks?

Well if it is its a non starter as far as I'm concerned

 

Endurance rallies have road rally style sections,regularity sections and forest stages. I don't want to go below standard ride height.

My current 1.9 8v is standard ride height with 160lb front springs which is about the best compromise I can find.

 

John

[Kev-G 1]

You can fit a GTi front end to a TU shell, but you will need:

 

1) Spacers between the chassis legs and the front mounts of the sub-frame

2) Move the brackets on the inner wing for the brake hoses

3) GTi long gear rod

[Guest Bigj]

Thanks Kev G for the info

 

But I'm not allowed to fit the gti front end, only to change the shocks and springs

 

J

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

The shocks and springs will fit without any problems you'll just have the mounting brackets for the ARB not being used and the brake pipe mount in a slightly different place.

Also the TD used the GTi wishbones which might be another way around the rules but having not read them I cannot say.

[Guest Bigj]

Thanks Miles

 

I knew all along that what I really needed was a euro spec Rallye

 

But when this 1400 XS came along for nothing I thought I can't go wrong really.

 

Because its an endurance car reliability will be far more important that an extra 15 or so bhp

 

John