Replaced The Knackered Ns Wishbone

[Neosophist 0]

Replaced the bottom balljoint / suspension leg as said above, this cost £15 + vat, had the car tracked and they said it was fine, spot on,

 

Car still pulls really bad to the left when you let go of the wheel,

 

Anyone got any ideas on what it could be?

 

Regs,

 

Martin

[doogz 0]

Mine did this, I replaced the rear shocks and rear subframe mounts today as they were a bit knackered and leaking. I checked the front end too and the passenger side balljoint pinch bolt needed a tiny bit of tightening up, but after taking it for a blast it's gone now... for the moment so i'm happy.

 

I'd replaced the wishbones a couple of months ago, which didn't cure it.

 

Might be worth replacing the rear mounts if they are looking a bit knackered and flakey, pug part 515110 - £9.26 each.

[Wurzel 16]

Tyre pressures can make a huge difference as well as can binding brake calipers. Perhaps these should be checked out.

 

My wishbone front bush is fecked which cause the car to turn left when accelerating and right when you take the foot of the gas. I'm assuming yours doesn't do this but instead just wanders when you let go of the wheel.

[C_W 3 1 Cars]

If the pressure are OK, try swapping the wheels over left to right as long as they aren't directional tyres.

[Wurzel 16]

If the pressure are OK, try swapping the wheels over left to right as long as they aren't directional tyres.

 

What's the theory here CW??

[mossy 0]

Sorry to Hi jack???

Where did you get the lower suspension arm from for 15 quid plus VAT???

As I need one.

[Neosophist 0]

Hiya, A place called Monway Autospares in wolverhampton, they supply most people including Halords, my 1.9 Discs were £30.60 inc vat the pair and there well sorted.

 

I can dig a phone no out if you want.

 

Ok,

 

Tyre pressures ok, Pulls to the left under accelration seems to drift off to the right when you loose your foot of the accelerator, brakes fine, Calipers new, not binding, same as discs and pads...

 

Was thinking about changing the passangerside wishbone too as The nearside one seemed to cure it a little bit.

 

But it's still really bad, also won't go above 75 / 80 unless your on a hill, seems like it's trying to drive like a crab.

 

As well, gonna check everything over in the morning, don't think it's driveshafts, the outer joints knock a little but it's nothing major, the front wheels look a little like this... |-----/ but it might be me being paranoid.

 

Any more suggestions,

 

TIA

 

Martin.

[Pugnut 9 1 Cars]

As well, gonna check everything over in the morning, don't think it's driveshafts, the outer joints knock a little but it's nothing major, the front wheels look a little like this... |-----/ but it might be me being paranoid.

there's nothing bent looking under the front of the car is there ?

 

15+vat for a track control arm!! i'll have 10 please ! you have a gti ? its not the non gti arm you're talking about is it ?

 

If the pressure are OK, try swapping the wheels over left to right as long as they aren't directional tyres.

 

even tyre garages can't tell you , but it can work . most noticeable if the car starts pulling after fitting new tyres though .

[Neosophist 0]

Sorry mate, non GTI arms, but i'll price up the GTI arms in the morning, they shouldnn't be that much more as this place is dirt cheap, trade suppliers, great stuff.

 

Regs,

 

Martin.

 

PS: Don't think so, gonna check the steering rack and everything in the morning, might have a quick glance now, my spotlights just charged.

[Pugnut 9 1 Cars]

the way i check the camber on my wheels is to stick a spirit level onto the rim/tyre vertically , get the bubble in the middle then measure the gap left at the top or bottom of the tyre . its not accurate but it will let you know for sure if both sides are the same and lets you know if something is wrong somewhere. obviously you car needs to be on level ground e.g. the garage floor .

[Wurzel 16]

The way the car pulls under acceleration and then drifts back when you take your foot off the gas strongly suggests knackered bushes.

 

If yours is a non GTi model then the anti roll bar plays a big part in controlling the fore and rear movement of the track arm (which controls the up and down movement). The movement may be very slight if you are pulling things around by hand. Remember, there are a lot of forces at play here when you drive.

 

Tracking wouldn't necessarily be affected by this and so wouldn't show up.

 

I suggest you look at the bushes where the front ARB mount on the underside of the car, the bushes where the end of the ARB mount on the control arm and where the control arm mounts on to the subframe. I notice you have a new control arm, did it come with new ARB mounting bushes pressed in?? If so, is everything assembled correctly and I would look at the ARB mounts on the chassis.

 

 

The front bush on my GTi arm is nadged at the moment and although I can only get a small amount of play when investigating the problem with the wheel off and car jacked up, the wandering on the road is pretty horrendous.

 

hth

[Craigb 2]

Just to add to this thread

 

i have just changed the nearside wishbone on my road rally 1.9 205 . No difference,

 

Then had a look at the tyres. Gravel tyres, one with 4mm tread , one with 10mm.

 

Swapped the one with 10mm for one with less tread. Problem disappeared.

 

Think this may have had something to do with the ATB diff and rolling radii?

 

At least I have a spare good wishbone ready for when I bend one !!

[Neosophist 0]

Ok,

 

I'll take a gander at the ARB later on, the new wishbone came with the bush's already pressed in, the other side i'll do tonight as well.

 

Regs,

 

Martin

[Wurzel 16]

Finally, if the car pulls to the left when you accelerate and drifts right when you take your foot off the accelerator, I would concentrate on the drivers side bushes (in a right hand drive car).

 

Mine does the exact same (all be it a GTi) and I can see movement in the front wishbone bush.

[Neosophist 0]

Changing it tonight i'll let you know how I get on,

 

seems to have worn the tyre down a bit too.

 

Argh!

 

Ah well, thanks for the advance guys.

 

Regs

 

Martin

[C_W 3 1 Cars]

What's the theory here CW??

That was a theory before he said it pulled left under acceleration!

 

I had a car once that always seemed t o pul lto the left when you let go of the steering and maintained speed; swapped the wheels over and it tracked dead ahead.

[Neosophist 0]

Hrm, well replaced both now and it still does the same thing well similar.. If you get is straight ahead it goes straight, turn it a little to the left and it seems to lean to the left, werid to explain but it goes to the left really bad, and same if you turn it right.

 

I think it might be steering rack I really don't know now and im getting to the stage where I tear my hair out!

 

Ideas?

 

Regs,

 

Martin

[Pugnut 9 1 Cars]

to quote nick :

I suggest you look at the bushes where the front ARB mount on the underside of the car,

 

have you inspected or replaced these? i appologise in advance if you have, but as nick says unlike a gti the arb bushes that mount to the CAR not the lower arm are also bieng used to hold strut/wheel in place . these cost peanuts and if you havent replaced them , they are more than likely to be the cause of you're problem.

[Neosophist 0]

hrm i'll do that in the morning then..

 

Thanks mate, i'll let you know the progress.

 

Regs,

 

Martin

[Wurzel 16]

If all the above seems fine, then maybe it is the steering rack or assocciated components.

 

Play in the steering column universal joint (on the column just before it connects to the rack) seems to be a common problem as well. This is easily shown up by applying gentle turning force to the steering wheel to see if there is any play before it turns the wheels. It will only be a few mm either side but again, makes a big difference on the road.

[doogz 0]

Without wanting to sound too insane, i would check the condition of the rear shocks and rear subframe mounts as i'm pretty sure this played a major part in my car's wandering and pulling to one side under throttle (as bonkers as it seems). Since replacing them the car is handling so much better.

[richard 0]

15+vat for a track control arm!!  i'll have 10 please ! you have a gti ?

just been fitted this week and cost 72.22+vat for genuine peugeot part if thats any help to someone. Edited February 26, 2004 by richard

[Neosophist 0]

It was the little thin metal bar that clams onto the Anti Roll bar, X = 330mm I think it says in the haynes book regarding it's length.

 

It had bent and broken away.

 

It's fine now

 

Many thanks for help and suggestions

 

Regards,

 

Martin

[Guest breakz187]

the drop links????

[Wurzel 16]

Well if that is what caused the pulling I'd be suprised but if it was then so be it.

 

If you've done a search and found this then take it as a suggestion, not a pure cure.

 

I'd like to know how exactly, this was th case??