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Omorgan

XU9J4 - MI16 - Coil & Amp Wiring

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Omorgan

Hello all. Again it's me with more questions about spark and fuel. I have spent 2 weeks reading and trying to get spark and fuel based upon your guys previous help and the rest of the topics. I have read and annotated multiple different wiring diagrams etc to no avail.

 

After I got the car started last time thanks to @DamirGTI, @welshpug, @SRDT and @petert, it spun a bearing first drive and I tore it down to find some chimp had assembled it and it was never going to run for long. (wrong crank, stem seals not on the guides, loose guides, main-cap bolts hand tight etc) I've rebuilt the engine and now I am at the stage again where I have no spark or fuel. I've changed the TDC sensor and I have a blue top ignition amp. 

 

Last night I stripped the loom and have taken notes of every wire and plug and where it goes into the ECU socket. I cant find a diagram for my ECU that is accurate to my two row ECU (Bosch Motronic 0261 -200 - 125)

 

As I don't have the correct diagrams, I was wondering if someone could please tell me if the Coil and Ignition module (wrongly labelled AFM on my drawing) wiring looks correct? Its been butchered before and I feel like its wrong - hence no spark. I feel like the Purple & Yellow+Green should be swapped. 

 

Anyone also know what 2C is on the last photo diagram? (Highlighted in blue)

 

Thank you all. Really need it up and running asap. Got a big trip in 3 weeks.

 

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SRDT

Here is a 35 pin ML4.1 Motronic diagram:

 

16v%20Ignition%20location.bmp

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Omorgan

Thank you @SRDT,

 

Do you have a key for the photo? I don't know what Item 285 is from the coil. It appears to be a ground, however that disagrees with the markings on the top of my coil so I'm unsure. The rest of the diagram has been spot on so far, really helpful!

Thank you. 

 

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welshpug

Pin 4 on the coil going to component 285 is just a connection for a suppressor, the black female spade.

 

Never actually seen one connected there.

 

 

The cut wire is not on the diagrams, so i have no idea what that's for.

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Omorgan

So it should be just the two in the middle connected then for it to run (as Idon't have a tacho). Still nothing today getting really frustrating. Anyone know how to test the amplifier at all? Looking like I'll need to find a new blue top one because I've tried everything else now. 

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hoodygoodwood

I am doing a similar thing to you by stripping my loom back and removing unwanted wires and making one or two repairs before i fit it to my 309 , it was taken out of a 1989 405 Mi16 at the same time as the engine and box etc and i would say it has been cut where it goes through the bulkhead  . ECU is 0 261 200 125 and AFM is 0 280 202 202 . The picture shows my 4 way coil plug , the blue wire ( no 2 ) was cut to tee in an imobiliser . Green i believe powers the rev counter and i think would be no 112 in the Haynes wiring diagram . The 2 other wires may be 3A and 2C , i will try to check these .

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Omorgan

Thank you mate. Looks tidier then my messy wiring are you able to trace where the yellow and pink go please? 

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hoodygoodwood

I will check when i go to the garage tomorrow 

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