Wiper Motor - make and model

[ArthurH 7]

I'd like to find an internal wiring diagram for my wiper motor:

 

Are all 205s fitted with the same motor?   Mine is from a 1994 NA Diesel

 

Does anyone know the manufacturer and/or part number (mine has no marking - the paper label has faded to blank)

 

 

TiA

 

 

[welshpug 1,662]

Basically yes, a valeo unit.

 

Shared with many other peugeot citroen vehicles with small differences in spindle nut and spline sizes.

[petert 591]

You may find this information handy, from when I wired in a switch in my race car.

[ArthurH 7]

Thanks Mei.  You were previously kind enough to send me the pin outs:

 

But as I am designing a new fuser/relay board, I would still like to find an internal wiring diagram for the motor.  Does anyone have that, or even a part number I could start from?

 

[ArthurH 7]

Thanks Peter, I think our posts have overlapped.  Yes, the new loom /fuse relay board is for our race car as well.  I had previously been advised to use two relays, one for each of the speeds, which is what I have implemented on both the switch panel and the fuse board - but now I come to wire it up, I am struggling to make use of those two 'outputs'.  All the diagrams I had found online related to the Lucas motor used on MGs and Triumphs.  I had found the diagram you have posted but I was hoping that only applied to Lucas motors as I can't see how I can connect it up without a major redesign of the relay board and loom.

 

Also, in that diagram, when it is switched to fast speed, is the power going through the relay at all?

 

In your spreadsheet, is PUG synonymous with Valeo?

[SRDT 183]

Yours looks like a Valeo but you can also find Bosch units made in Spain, at least on LHD cars.

 

As for the magic inside it's mostly that the internal park contact will ground pin 5 when on park. It should be common but not all wiper motors do this.

Also on some older cars (not 205) the motor need both fast and slow pins to +12V to go slow so diagrams found online can be confusing. Lastly on some cars (again not 205) wiper motors don't have a slow speed and it's the intermittent relay that has many settings to conpensate.

Edited yesterday at 12:17 PM by SRDT

[ArthurH 7]

Thanks Baptiste.  Although it will take me a while to digest these circuits, I do think it gives me what I have been looking for.  Before committing to any redesign, I think I will 'breadboard' the components to check out the logic.

 

 

 

[petert 591]

7 hours ago, ArthurH said:

Thanks Peter, I think our posts have overlapped.  Yes, the new loom /fuse relay board is for our race car as well.  I had previously been advised to use two relays, one for each of the speeds, which is what I have implemented on both the switch panel and the fuse board - but now I come to wire it up, I am struggling to make use of those two 'outputs'.  All the diagrams I had found online related to the Lucas motor used on MGs and Triumphs.  I had found the diagram you have posted but I was hoping that only applied to Lucas motors as I can't see how I can connect it up without a major redesign of the relay board and loom.

 

Also, in that diagram, when it is switched to fast speed, is the power going through the relay at all?

 

In your spreadsheet, is PUG synonymous with Valeo?

Correct. I took that Lucas diagram and reverse engineered it to suit the PUG (Peugeot Valeo) 205 motor. It does indeed just use direct +12V for fast via wire 31A & Pin 1. You could add a 2nd relay for that, or just use the oem relay SRDT posted.