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Bremar

Subtle improvements to avoid car loosing back end

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Bremar

Hi, 

I have the 1.9 Gti Gentry model. I have finished a few repairs but while the rear is on axel stands can anyone tell me what modifications will improve the reduction of the possibility of loosing the back end. This appears to be an issue with these cars and the wife will be driving it now and again. 
I've searched the internet and this website for everyday driving improvements to avoid the twitchy back end. Any advise welcome 

thanks Bremar 

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welshpug

Good tyres, and no sharp lifting off on the ragged edge of grip will do it, unless your wife is a fine helmsman i doubt she will be driving the car at the limit.

 

 

Decent dampers also help.

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petert

Fit 306 arms, which have more -ve toe in.  It will then be much harder to induce lift off over-steer. There is a post on here listing the toe-in of various arms which fit.

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Bremar

Hi Petert,

Thanks but I suspect the rear 306 arms have discs on them. As my car is a Gentry, like the 1.6 Gti,  it has drums (Girling) on the rear. I have also just finished fitting metal tabs on the drum to run the wheel censor for the Brantz trip meter so don’t  want to change that. 
 

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Bremar

Hi Welshpug,

i will do some research but I am guessing you are suggesting stiffer shocks in the rear? Or would newer and therefore, more effective like for like replacement shocks be good enough and keep the ride comfort. 
thanks Bremar 

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petert
33 minutes ago, Bremar said:

Hi Petert,

Thanks but I suspect the rear 306 arms have discs on them. As my car is a Gentry, like the 1.6 Gti,  it has drums (Girling) on the rear. I have also just finished fitting metal tabs on the drum to run the wheel censor for the Brantz trip meter so don’t  want to change that. 
 

 

Some 306 have drums, but so what? Just press out the axles and swap them over. You did ask how to dull it down?

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Tom Fenton

Driven normally its absolutely no issue. Peugeot made 5.something million of these 205's, its not as if every single one ended upside down in a ditch on fire from oversteer.

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Leslie green

If the trailing arm  bearings are worn or worse siezed  it is much more likely to oversteer when pushed on . 

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jord294

An axle that has been refreshed recently or rebuilt will cause no issues at all. Especially with a decent set of shocks. Decent brand tyres also recommended 

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SRDT

Stiffer front suspension with no change on the rear can induce massive understeer... and enough flex on the chassis to hear the windshield gasket move around.

Going not as stiff as I did or using a smaller rear anti roll bar could be a solution for you. As for me I used a stiffer rear anti roll bar and got all the oversteer back and some more.

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Henry Yorke

I’m with Tom on this one. You have to really push it to loosen the back and the reputation for lift off oversteer was when they were launched and the old MXV tyres. Modern tyres have decent characteristics now, so unless she is Michelle Mouton, I wouldn’t worry

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