Help ID this radiator...

[Ryan 99]

I bought this radiator 18 years ago, but it turned out not to fit my Mi16 due to being a few mm too thick, so I put it in the loft and forgot about it, and have since lost all the info on it.

 

It was NOS in the original box, so it's not a weird aftermarket rad. It's got brass end tanks and a capped-off filler neck that I've not seen on a GTI radiator before. There's also a large threaded boss on the top (which I blanked off with an old level sensor).

 

The only identifying marks are "Ordonez" (manufacturer?) on the top and "J8" on one of the end tanks.

 

[petert 586]

It certainly looks 205 GTi. Perhaps AC? Measure the height to confirm.

[Gohn 68]

that is the radiator used on the 205 Si, they're real good

all brass/copper,

coolant level sender top right,

expansion tank hose connection top right,

filler cap top left,

top hose connection top left and fan switch -the hole-below it

there'll be a drain plug bottom left rear with an M14 spanner hex head

I find the part catalog a bit difficult to decipher on radiators, but looks like some of the GTi's also got that rad, those with injection

 

[petert 586]

Yep, definitely looks like GTi or Si with AC to me. Both mine and yours are 33 rows. The GTi has a cap fitted instead on the level sensor.

 

Edited February 25 by petert

[Gohn 68]

also should have said , the Si is 1580cc (1.6l) petrol monopoint injection

 

plenty of other models - mardi gras, automatic, etc had same engine so would be suitable for that rad

 

and its easy to overtighten the filler cap or drain plug,

I've had several where previous owners have just cranked them until badly bent or cracked

[SRDT 175]

10 hours ago, Gohn said:

I find the part catalog a bit difficult to decipher on radiators, but looks like some of the GTi's also got that rad, those with injection

 

GE means Grand Export. Australia being a bit far away from france should be part of those "Grand Export" countries.

[Ryan 99]

13 hours ago, petert said:

Yep, definitely looks like GTi or Si with AC to me. Both mine and yours are 33 rows. The GTi has a cap fitted instead on the level sensor.

 

 

 

Measuring at this exact point I get 285mm tall and 41mm thick.

 

Your rad has an extra threaded boss on the side just above the bottom hose connection, which mine doesn't. Is this used for anything or blanked off?

Edited February 25 by Ryan

[Ryan 99]

Looking at the box again I noticed a tiny label hidden under two layers of brown tape with a part number just readable - 1301 D4. By the parts list Gohn posted that's an a/c rad, but then looking up the part number online brings up all kinds of aftermarket alternatives which can't decide if they're for 205s with a/c or all 205s EXCEPT those with a/c.

[petert 586]

6 hours ago, Ryan said:

Your rad has an extra threaded boss on the side just above the bottom hose connection, which mine doesn't. Is this used for anything or blanked off?

 

That's the only threaded boss, used for the fan switch. It came from an early Jetronic model. Regardless, you have a great radiator there and worth a small fortune now.

[welshpug 1,657]

phase1 cars had the fan switch above the bottom hose, later ones moved to below the top hose, all the aftermarket rads I've seen for the non ac gti/diesel have both ports and come with a blanking plug.

 

if its anything like the TD rads then they're around £300 now, IF you can find one.

[petert 586]

1 hour ago, welshpug said:

if its anything like the TD rads then they're around £300 now, IF you can find one.

Indeed that's the money I was thinking of. I had a quote to re-core the one it the photo. It was AUS$575 pre-covid.

[Gohn 68]

15 hours ago, Ryan said:

Looking at the box again I noticed a tiny label hidden under two layers of brown tape with a part number just readable - 1301 D4. By the parts list Gohn posted that's an a/c rad, but then looking up the part number online brings up all kinds of aftermarket alternatives which can't decide if they're for 205s with a/c or all 205s EXCEPT those with a/c.

205's with A/C

the 205 Si's all came with air con

 

 

[Ryan 99]

What's the core thickness of a normal GTI rad?