Torsion bar lowering

[jord294 94]

11 hours ago, Phil Gti said:

I have no personal previous experience of this job. IWhat is considered the correct method for lowering the rear beam?

 

Shouldn't really expect to be sorted at low cost, unless it's bodged.

 

Ideally you need a a refreshed axle with new bearings and seals as a minimum. Trailing arm shafts may be able to be reused, but any imperfections where needle roller has dug in, then definitely change. Add rubber mount bush replacement, unless in good order (which probably won't be). 

 

Spend the money wisely now, and you should never have to worry about rear end again

[Tom Fenton 1,549]

Have a look at this thread for what many beams that have not been apart will look like inside (or worse)

 

https://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/index.php?threads/my-205-rear-beam-rebuild.94442/

 

 

[Tom Fenton 1,549]

 

A few from the many in my phone.

 

A new bearing

 

 

New shafts fitted to the trailing arms

 

 

Totally knackered shaft and bearing as removed using Mr. sledgehammer from a car that drove to me

 

[welshpug 1,668]

Thats what mine looked like on both sides 18 years ago, passed an mot, full service history!

[pug_ham 245 3 Cars]

15 hours ago, Phil Gti said:

What is considered the correct method for lowering the rear beam?

 

Expanding on Mei's reply above;

 

With the torsion bars removed from beam tube & radius arm, set dummy shock length to give desired ride height and refit the torsion bars by rotating a spline at a time until they slide into tube & radius arm with little to no resistance, certainly not driven home with a slide hammer.

 

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[Leslie green 116]

I remember my first 205 an 1986 5 door diesel and the rear did not move a mm when you stood on the towbar as it was totally siezed  

Edited September 19, 2023 by Leslie green

[Phil Gti 11]

Having re searched this thoroughly, I have found a company that will fully refurbish it and set the ride height for less than it was going to cost me to transport the car and just have it lowered. Considering I have replaced or reconditioned  pretty muh every other mechanical item this seems the sensible and fortuneately the cheapest option. 

 

Cheers for the advice.

[jord294 94]

13 minutes ago, Phil Gti said:

Having re searched this thoroughly, I have found a company that will fully refurbish it and set the ride height for less than it was going to cost me to transport the car and just have it lowered. Considering I have replaced or reconditioned  pretty muh every other mechanical item this seems the sensible and fortuneately the cheapest option. 

 

Cheers for the advice.

And if you're talking IMAXLES, good luck!

[Phil Gti 11]

Yes I had found im axles.

Go on dissapoint me...

 

[jord294 94]

Put it this way, I've had to put right what IMAXLES have sold.

 

Anything from not being lowered to wrong spec torsion and arb, and even supplying a 'disc axle' with drum brake spec stub pins. 

[welshpug 1,668]

Not come across many of theirs but its not been great my wnd either, had to rebuild one that collapsed half way through a stage rally.

[pugdamo 111 2 Cars]

My own experience of IM axles has also been very poor, but that being said I'm sure it's been said on here that the beam tubes are ok, so if you had a beam that was scrap get just the beam from IM axle but replace the bearings and seals that come supplied. Someone can hopefully confirm this but I'm sure I've read it on here which may provide more options for you.

[jord294 94]

I also won't supply axles to anyone which have been machined and sleeved.

 

A few times on stripping machined axles the trailing arm was removed with outer bearing and machined sleeve stuck solid on shaft

[Phil Gti 11]

Urrrgh great. So that means I need a rebuild kit and still find someone to do it for me. One step forward and two back!

[jord294 94]

15 minutes ago, Phil Gti said:

Urrrgh great. So that means I need a rebuild kit and still find someone to do it for me. One step forward and two back!

Been said before, but you really need to travel to get an enthusiast to do your axle, not a 'specialist' who offers them cheap

[Duroc 2 1 Cars]

On 9/13/2023 at 9:45 AM, welshpug said:

I'd say there's 3 that replied here that can help.

And me, ( I guess I'm not included). But I've got too much on now

[Phil Gti 11]

I have got the time and money over the winter months to find, and arrange with someone in the Forum to get it done.

Firsts step is work out whonis closest to me .

Edited October 28, 2023 by Phil Gti