205 T16 replica build

[Edward.s 0]

Something aboute the boost gauge that came to my mind, if the dimentions are known then maby use a straight fotward picture to make a 3D model, then 3D print a custom enclosure for a «modern» boost Hauge and make a custom dial?

[SRDT 186]

It's a standard 3"1/8 (≃80mm) aircraft instrument, there is probably a 3d model floating around.

[Ced1610 21]

Complete rear bridge fabrication

for replacing Evo2 style on my replica

 

hopefully, why the real frame it’s more easy to be acurate….

[Paul Curtis 2]

Hi, thought i would share my on going T16 project.

Using VW engine & 4motion golf driveline. have almost completed the basic design & have started assembling parts & fabrication

[Ced1610 21]

quite finish…

Thomas, are you still alive ? :-)

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12 hours ago, Paul Curtis said:

Hi, thought i would share my on going T16 project.

Using VW engine & 4motion golf driveline. have almost completed the basic design & have started assembling parts & fabrication

Hello Paul, need some info ?

frame size or photos ?

[petert 598]

I admire your AutoCAD skills.

[Paul Curtis 2]

Thanks for the offer Cedric, I have been chatting with a T16 owner in France, who has generously provided lots of information including dimensions etc, which I've used to produce my model.

 

Your replica is very impressive, would you consider making more ? & what will you be using for engine, gearbox etc ?

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4 hours ago, Paul Curtis said:

Thanks for the offer Cedric, I have been chatting with a T16 owner in France, who has generously provided lots of information including dimensions etc, which I've used to produce my model.

 

Your replica is very impressive, would you consider making more ? & what will you be using for engine, gearbox etc ?

hello Paul,

Thank you

 

i have choosen XU9J4 with a T3 turbo,

a Citroen C35 5speed TJ gearbox and 2 Haldex  A3 vr6

i remove the two haldex coupling and add 3 autolock differential ( 1 in gearbox and 2 inside front and rear box…

 

i have a complete frame tool and îm already doing another frame…

quite easy now because i own a complete real 205 T16…

On 10/9/2024 at 10:54 AM, Paul Curtis said:

Hi, thought i would share my on going T16 project.

Using VW engine & 4motion golf driveline. have almost completed the basic design & have started assembling parts & fabrication

 

[SRDT 186]

4 hours ago, Ced1610 said:

Citroen C35 5speed TJ gearbox

Don't go too wild with engine torque, the DS/SM/C35 CWP is designed for an engine that run "backwards" so when mated to the XU it won't be as strong as it should.

Lotus had the same problem with the Esprit and today you can find special CWP to correct this but it's not cheap.

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24 minutes ago, SRDT said:

Don't go too wild with engine torque, the DS/SM/C35 CWP is designed for an engine that run "backwards" so when mated to the XU it won't be as strong as it should.

Lotus had the same problem with the Esprit and today you can find special CWP to correct this but it's not cheap.

Yes, i know this, but my goal is to reach maximum close as original… otherwise, i would have welded frame to a 2020 Rs3 chassis…. for me, the most important is to be as close to the original look…

and peugeot motor, citroen gearbox is the minimum…

 

but every project have a goal…

 

pipe frame are very easy to manufacture, only a plasma pipe cutting solution, cheap as 12000€ and you go from step file to pipe cutted… easy…

cutting, bending and welding 1mm steal frame is another way…

 

your motor /gearbox  solution will work very well, and will give you satisfaction…this is the most important, no mather wat other meaning…

 

original thing is using autocad… now only Solidworks is visible on every project… and for that, RESPECT…

[Leslie green 114]

Very impressive work 

[Paul Curtis 2]

hello Paul,

Thank you

 

i have choosen XU9J4 with a T3 turbo,

a Citroen C35 5speed TJ gearbox and 2 Haldex  A3 vr6

i remove the two haldex coupling and add 3 autolock differential ( 1 in gearbox and 2 inside front and rear box…

 

i have a complete frame tool and îm already doing another frame…

quite easy now because i own a complete real 205 T16…

 

Hi Cedric

 

Will be doing something similar, but with VW components, as I'm very familiar with them.

I was planned on welding the diff in the gearbox & removing the clutch pack in the rear Haldex & controlling the front Heldex electronically.

 

Would it be possible for you to contact myself (I'm unable to PM you) as I would be very interested in one of your chassis, if your willing to make another.

You are very lucky in owning an original T16, sadly a dream for me.

Have attached some pictures of my T1 & Will hopefully add a T16 (replica) to my garage one day.

 

 

[Paul Curtis 2]

My biggest problem was finding a suitable double wishbone hub (at a sensible price), so have adapted some mk5 golf hubs & will build custom arms to suit.

[Paul Curtis 2]

Have found someone who is making a Haldex clutch delete solution, if of any help.

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7 hours ago, Paul Curtis said:

Have found someone who is making a Haldex clutch delete solution, if of any help.

very interesting…

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8 hours ago, Paul Curtis said:

My biggest problem was finding a suitable double wishbone hub (at a sensible price), so have adapted some mk5 golf hubs & will build custom arms to suit.

for this i have chosen Renault master 2 ones…

with same 9,75 degres angle…

look for them…

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8 hours ago, Paul Curtis said:

hello Paul,

Thank you

 

i have choosen XU9J4 with a T3 turbo,

a Citroen C35 5speed TJ gearbox and 2 Haldex  A3 vr6

i remove the two haldex coupling and add 3 autolock differential ( 1 in gearbox and 2 inside front and rear box…

 

i have a complete frame tool and îm already doing another frame…

quite easy now because i own a complete real 205 T16…

 

Hi Cedric

 

Will be doing something similar, but with VW components, as I'm very familiar with them.

I was planned on welding the diff in the gearbox & removing the clutch pack in the rear Haldex & controlling the front Heldex electronically.

 

Would it be possible for you to contact myself (I'm unable to PM you) as I would be very interested in one of your chassis, if your willing to make another.

You are very lucky in owning an original T16, sadly a dream for me.

Have attached some pictures of my T1 & Will hopefully add a T16 (replica) to my garage one day.

 

 

Very Nice T1…

i begin to do a T2 next month….

i have all to do a real frame…

T1 is more garder because aluminium body parts to found…

 

here will find mail

 

 ced1610@gmail.com

[Ced1610 21]

Just now, Ced1610 said:

Very Nice T1…

i begin to do a T2 next month….

i have all to do a real frame…

T1 is more garder because aluminium body parts to found…

 

here will find mail

 

 ced1610@gmail.com

weldi

 

8 hours ago, Paul Curtis said:

hello Paul,

Thank you

 

i have choosen XU9J4 with a T3 turbo,

a Citroen C35 5speed TJ gearbox and 2 Haldex  A3 vr6

i remove the two haldex coupling and add 3 autolock differential ( 1 in gearbox and 2 inside front and rear box…

 

i have a complete frame tool and îm already doing another frame…

quite easy now because i own a complete real 205 T16…

 

Hi Cedric

 

Will be doing something similar, but with VW components, as I'm very familiar with them.

I was planned on welding the diff in the gearbox & removing the clutch pack in the rear Haldex & controlling the front Heldex electronically.

 

Would it be possible for you to contact myself (I'm unable to PM you) as I would be very interested in one of your chassis, if your willing to make another.

You are very lucky in owning an original T16, sadly a dream for me.

Have attached some pictures of my T1 & Will hopefully add a T16 (replica) to my garage one day.

 

 

Welding gearbox diff will be a disaster if you’re out of mud /sand…

you must have slip between front and back…

 

and using front haldex will ask some questions:

- this clutch is on /off or is analog controled ?

- original is permanent 4x4…

- will this haldex work in reverse position ( oil input inside pump…)

 

is your gearbox a gti one ?

because gti (benzine gearbox in fact…) will be too short…

do not forget the 1.5 reduction….

better would be using a diesel gearbox…

 

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today it’s 205 T16 drivetrain analysis…

with ferguson and spyroconical stufs…

 

it seem that for replacing real 205 T16 front differential, you must install 505 differential…

but not same shape, will be sand molded, 505 inside and T16 outside…

 

Wheel hubs 3d file ready, next step is sand molding.

 

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begin to duplicate synchro sliders for real T16… now it’s impossible to find new one

 

No matter, i will do them too…

 

 

[Spesh 31 1 Cars]

@Berglundracing any updates?

[Berglundracing 27]

Hi every one!

I’m happy the thread is still alive. Good work Cedric!

I havent worked on the car yet sadly and it will take some more time I’m afraid.

Keep on posting…..I’ll be back