Myles 5 Posted July 6, 2020 No torsion bars on the saxo above! Does that mean it’s just the arb holding the arms into the beam?? R48.4.1- Retain the operating principle : ie .keep tbs and dampers as per Peugeot intended - Utilise the mounting points as per manufacturers: ie . Satchell kit with additional coilovers and mounting points You can pick the bones of that all you wish ,so with the same view , the new “ Gleave kit “will retain as above , utilise as above and have additional coilovers as above operating vertically at the hub in turrets . Shouldn’t need a cat 2 if you look at it like that!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Myles 5 Posted July 13, 2020 A bit more done on the bonnet mould over the weekend 1. Tooling resin curing in the sun 2. The front edge is having a small return to give strength and be comfortable to open so needs a two part mould here so we can get it apart! Hope to have a carbon bonnet made by the end of August Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maxirallye 2 Posted July 27, 2020 On 7/6/2020 at 9:47 PM, Myles said: No torsion bars on the saxo above! Does that mean it’s just the arb holding the arms into the beam?? R48.4.1- Retain the operating principle : ie .keep tbs and dampers as per Peugeot intended - Utilise the mounting points as per manufacturers: ie . Satchell kit with additional coilovers and mounting points You can pick the bones of that all you wish ,so with the same view , the new “ Gleave kit “will retain as above , utilise as above and have additional coilovers as above operating vertically at the hub in turrets . Shouldn’t need a cat 2 if you look at it like that!!! Myles, the Saxo owner has chosen to remove the torsion bars, however we recommend keeping them in place, but small diameter. The issue with turrets under Cat 1 is that you are not allowed to make alterations to the shell, so therefore are not allowed to cut and fabricate the actual turret. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spesh 31 1 Cars Posted July 29, 2020 On 6/17/2020 at 1:25 PM, Tom Fenton said: Bilstein fixed platform dampers 160lb springs, standard roll bar Rose jointed bottom arms adjusted to 1.5 deg camber Bridgecraft caster washers Tom, whats the deal with the caster washers please? I need to get some more caster in mine with fixed billys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Fenton 1,541 Posted July 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Spesh said: Tom, whats the deal with the caster washers please? I need to get some more caster in mine with fixed billys https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/202799615476 Doesn’t give a huge amount, but every little helps. Moves the rear wishbone pick up out which in turn pushes the balljoint forwards. Easy enough to do if you are competent with a welder and die grinder. Contact Allanallen on here to buy direct. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmt 15 Posted July 30, 2020 Is extra/new plate for the subframe included or du you just grind a big bad oval hole In the original fixing points? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,657 Posted July 30, 2020 (edited) its the washers, no extra bits required, they arent just plain washers though. Edited July 30, 2020 by welshpug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Fenton 1,541 Posted July 30, 2020 57 minutes ago, mmt said: Is extra/new plate for the subframe included or du you just grind a big bad oval hole In the original fixing points? Have you actually looked closely at the pictures? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmt 15 Posted July 30, 2020 (edited) How is the caster changed if you only change the washers and not the fixing holes in the frame? sorry for being slow. Edited July 30, 2020 by mmt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petert 586 Posted July 30, 2020 In regards to the caster/camber, if you have a fixed Bilstein, can you do something like I did? I have fully adjustable arms, but I still laid the strut top back as far as I could. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spesh 31 1 Cars Posted July 30, 2020 11 hours ago, Tom Fenton said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/202799615476 Doesn’t give a huge amount, but every little helps. Moves the rear wishbone pick up out which in turn pushes the balljoint forwards. Easy enough to do if you are competent with a welder and die grinder. Contact Allanallen on here to buy direct. Thanks 4 minutes ago, petert said: In regards to the caster/camber, if you have a fixed Bilstein, can you do something like I did? I have fully adjustable arms, but I still laid the strut top back as far as I could. I've not had a good look but I seem to remember there not being that much space around the top spring pan/mount to move it that far back? I assume they are self made top mounts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petert 586 Posted July 30, 2020 Yes, I made them. Mine are Bilsteins, so there must be the same amount of clearance. Disregard where the camber is, I run 405 driveshafts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petert 586 Posted July 30, 2020 (edited) They're simple to make. Cut out 8mm plate on the plasma cutter. Obviously they need to be handed. If you're handy, you could make a test pair, get a wheel alignment, then adjust drawing for the final pair. Edited July 30, 2020 by petert Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Fenton 1,541 Posted July 30, 2020 I think Spesh is talking about a fixed platform Bilstein with the OE sized spring. Peter I assume you mean a fixed platform coilover with 2-1/4" spring? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petert 586 Posted July 30, 2020 Yes, mine are 2.25”. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spesh 31 1 Cars Posted July 30, 2020 Yes that was my confusion, I understand now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Myles 5 Posted August 2, 2020 On 7/27/2020 at 3:34 PM, maxirallye said: Myles, the Saxo owner has chosen to remove the torsion bars, however we recommend keeping them in place, but small diameter. The issue with turrets under Cat 1 is that you are not allowed to make alterations to the shell, so therefore are not allowed to cut and fabricate the actual turret. Thanks for your reply- Yes cat 2. will be the way to go with this , but as questioned above is it just the arb holding the beam together on the Saxo?? Rallying is now back on track!!! Have entry in for Pennine Targa 6th Sept , can’t wait as Clitheroe mc always put on a fantastic event and this has a full 90 car entry with crews from all over the country! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Myles 5 Posted September 16, 2020 After the Pennine Targa 10th overall with my lad navigating so quite happy with that and a great day out -90 crews from all over the country very sociable and really competitive . Going to put an entry in for the first round of the circuit championship at Oulton Park - see how that goes! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Myles 5 Posted November 27, 2020 Not got round to the rear yet - so to speak! But have had the front hubs machined by Bridgecraft for camber - excellent job and will rose joint the wishbone ball joint in the very near future, thankyou Allan. Currently fighting with the coilover spring platforms as they have seized to the tube but getting there ! New seals on the way from Skip Brown and that should do for now No events planned or foreseeable in the current state even the North West Stages has been canned again so will have the rear rebuilt in the new year - so, Which bearings are recommended and from where? What other items like covers and end caps are available?. And the big question - SHOULD I LOWER IT???? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petert 586 Posted November 28, 2020 (edited) Good job! I've got similar bushes in my Grp A hubs. Edited November 28, 2020 by petert Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Myles 5 Posted December 5, 2020 Got some camber on now difficult to tell in the photo but with the level parallel with wheel and then vertical Will get a gauge on it next weekend after a little running around and set the toe and suchlike 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Myles 5 Posted December 14, 2020 Had about 20miles running about on Saturday and am really pleased with the results , mid corner to exit there is so much more grip than before even having to steer out of bends rather than putting on more lock, which is great , and straight line stability seems to have improved as well! Must get the rear arms done now, having decided against the turreting I’m going to rebuild the beam with some 22mm bars and bigger arb, has anybody made an adjustable linkage for their arb ??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,657 Posted December 14, 2020 there is no linkage on the rear at all, so no, nobody has made an adjustable linkage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petert 586 Posted December 15, 2020 Have a look at what I did for Sweetbadger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
allanallen 528 2 Cars Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) Glad to hear of the improvements myles Some Of the 306 and xsara touring cars ran a rose joint arrangement on the anti roll bar levers, as far as I know this was just to accurately wind any preload out of the bar although I’ve seen it mentioned that it was used to preload the bar to aid corner weighting, this I’m not sure about though! If you look up cornering force they have done an external rear blade type arb for Peugeot’s. probably a bit circuit orientated to be honest. Edited December 15, 2020 by allanallen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
