Oil sump

[Mark ford 0]

Hi can anyone help me regarding replacing the oil sump on my 205gti 1.9, I have been shopping around and trying to find a new one to buy but they don't seem to exist. From what I understand the sumps for the 1.6 are a different size in the depth and you can still buy them brand new how come you can't for the 1.9 or am I not looking properly, I would be grateful if someone has any knowledge on this subject. Many thanks mark 

[jackherer 543]

The 1.6 sump is deeper than the 1.9, the 1.9 uses a block stiffener between the block and the sump (often called the sump spacer) so the sump itself is shallower to compensate.

[Mark ford 0]

Hi Jack thanks for your reply regarding the oil sump, yes I understand the set up with the block stiffener plate, my question is can you still buy a new sump for the 1.9 or will it be a used one only. My 205gti is a H plate 1990 phase 1.5.

 

Many thanks mark 

[Tom Fenton 1,542]

AUTODOC list a 1.9 sump at around £40. I can’t tell you if it’s definitely correct or not though.

[Mark ford 0]

Hi Jack thanks for your reply regarding the oil sump, yes I understand the set up with the block stiffener plate, my question is can you still buy a new sump for the 1.9 or will it be a used one only. My 205gti is a H plate 1990 phase 1.5.

 

Many thanks mark 

 

Hi Tom

Many thanks for the information I will look into and see what I can fnd out.

Cheers mark 

[Thijs_Rallye 87 4 Cars]

As far as I can see there are two possibilities: 0301.F1 and 0301.F6. Both steel and both for use in combination with a strenghtening plate.

 

Most aftermarket sites (powered by autodoc or cleverlog) don't really "know" the difference between a XU9J1 and XU9JA(Z) sump. If you search on OEM number your chances of receiving the correct parts go up considerably.

 

 

[Davetouch 3]

Hi, I know this is an old topic, and apologies for digging it up, but its the absolutely perfect info so I'd just be linking to it anyway.

 

I have a 1.9 and the sump is a bit dented (pic of mine below). Since sumps seem to be affordable I thought I'd just replace it....but as above it seems like the 0301.F1/F6 shorter sump (about 125mm deep) just doesn't exist, but the 0301.F3 (normal depth from the 1.6 140mm deep) is easily found.

 

 

So my question is did anyone find somewhere to get a shallow sump?

 

I've tried hitting this with a block of wood and large hammer to no avail. I did find some options that were the right dimensions but seem to not have the oil temperature sensor hole/tap on the side (0301.J7 from the diesel I believe) but I guess thats not useful because that sensor should be there.

 

 

 

 

[petert 588]

Why not fit a late 1.9 finned alloy AC sump? Either 8V or Mi16. 

Edited August 12 by petert

[Telf 224 2 Cars]

have you checked Ebay etc for a scrap engine? They do exist. 

[Leslie green 111]

Take the bung out put it on a solid surface and beat it fron the inside , I couldn't get a new 1.9 sump so had to do the same . You can use a piece of flat steel plate to stop hammer marks , mine is ok but will never be perfect you can see marks in the powdercoat .

I don't see why you couldn't use a 1.6 sump it will just be a little deeper and hold more oil which isn't a bad thing ,the pickup won't be as close to the bottom is the only downside but if the oil is up the the same level it shouldn't really be an issue id think.

Edited August 12 by Leslie green