Rose Jointed Gear linkages installation

[4ll5op 8]

ok so ive bought these as the gear selection is like a lottery. more so when car is warm.

 

im wanting to tackle the installation this bank holiday but before i start want to get a good idea of the process and / or anything else i might be needing to buy

 

thanks in advance

 

stu

 

ps. its be1 box if that makes a difference

[jackherer 543]

16 minutes ago, 4ll5op said:

ps. its be1 box if that makes a difference

It makes life much easier compared to BE3!

 

From what I remember you just need a drill and some patience while adjusting the rods...

[4ll5op 8]

From memory can u remember what im drilling?

 

From what ive read i need to modify the triangle arm on gearbox to remove the ball and allow for the new joints?

[Tom Fenton 1,542]

You’d be better off to be honest with the clip on style joints rather than actual

rose joints, the clip on type are direct fit. I think you’ll need to take a lot of stuff off the car to drill and fit the Rose jointed rods.

[4ll5op 8]

Clip on ie original ones?

 

This is why i left it til bank holiday weekend to do it, in case there was more work involved just couldn't find a guide anywhere

[Tom Fenton 1,542]

Similar to original but with better joints with a retaining clip. 

 

Such as these

 

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F233177695458

 

The Rose jointed ones will need the original balls cutting off various places then holes drilling to bolt the Rose joints on.

[4ll5op 8]

Dont sound too difficult if thats all i need to do is drill some holes in some places

 

Do you know where and how many roughly?

 

 

[JeffR 51]

I think you'd be better off to follow Tom's advise. I replaced my worn out OEM ones with a the retaining clip style from Miles (Pugracing).

 

No dismantling or modification of any components making for a quick and straight fit. Just make sure to adjust them to the correct length. The rose jointed ones in your post seem to have very little adjustment.

[4ll5op 8]

The ones i have seem to adjust quite a bit i dont mind the extra work as its not a daily driver and have all bank holiday to do it. Like i said just looking for a guide really and im kind of up for a challenge. If when i start i think im out of my depth then ill look into the others but ive already got these rose joint rods and wont get the others in time 

[Tom Fenton 1,542]

Anywhere there is a standard rod, remove it, grind the weld securing the original ball and remove the ball, drill a hole in that place and bolt the rod on. You'll need to remove most of the gear linkage from the car to do it. If you need more of a guide than that then I'd suggest its maybe beyond your comfort zone?

[4ll5op 8]

ok thats brilliant i should be able to conquer this. i always worry about doing jobs on the 205 but when i finish i think i dont know what i was worried about. ive failed to not complete any job ive tried yet. i just keep challenging myself to more complex jobs

[petert 587]

I use cap headed shoulder bolts when I do rose joints, with an appropriate length spacer to keep the rose joint away from the lever. In metric, of course. A small TIG weld underneath keeps it in place, negating the need for an allen key.

 

Edited April 18, 2019 by petert

[4ll5op 8]

ok so i had a look at this today. i can see all the ball joints i need replacing but the 2 arms on the gear box i cant see how to remove them. and i dont fancy drilling holes with them still attached.

 

anyway i got underneath and tightened the ball joint on subframe and thats made it better. but i think im going to just buy the linkages you suggested on here.

 

so if anyone is after some rose joint linkages let me know original ebay number 132975445272