4ll5op 8 Posted March 3, 2019 i thought i would tackle this today. so far i have disconnected the cable from clutch arm cut cable tie on sub-frame disconnected the cable from the pedal. my problem is i can see a white bit of plastic behind the pedal the cable goes through. im guessing this is what you lot call the gromit? anyway how the hell do i remove it. thanks stu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackherer 543 Posted March 3, 2019 Is this the car with a slipping clutch from your other thread? You're not going to stop a clutch slipping with a new cable... I did just have a thought about it though, did you have the dowel rod present between the clutch arm and the clutch fork? (number 2 on this diagram) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4ll5op 8 Posted March 3, 2019 yes mate its the same car. its needed a new cable for a while as it judders when lifting foot off and as i was bored thought id change it before it goes in this week for the clucth. do not remember seeing dowel rod Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackherer 543 Posted March 3, 2019 The dowel goes between the clutch fork and the clutch arm, if you don't have that it's not going to work properly. I just found this photo: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4ll5op 8 Posted March 3, 2019 ok ill double check if the rain stops soon. any tips of removing the grommet mate? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackherer 543 Posted March 3, 2019 Sorry, I can't remember what the pedal end of the cable on a BE1 205 looks like, all of mine are BE3 now, it's years since I last had a BE1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackherer 543 Posted March 3, 2019 The dowel pin thing isn't held in by anything other than the tension of the cable so if you've undone the cable it would have fallen off then! So it probably wasn't there in the first place, when you had to tighten the cable I suspect you were compensating for the missing dowel which wont work and might be why your clutch started slipping. It's just a pin with rounded ends about 1" long, you can improvise something fairly easily. Or it's Peugeot part number 212046 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4ll5op 8 Posted March 3, 2019 this is the pedal end. its the rubber bit nearest pedal i cant remove was hoping there was a knack or certain tool someone uses Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Fenton 1,542 Posted March 3, 2019 Pull harder or try and get a screwdriver in and push the lip of the grommet through to get it started. It’s awkward in the footwell though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmt 15 Posted March 3, 2019 6 hours ago, jackherer said: The dowel goes between the clutch fork and the clutch arm, if you don't have that it's not going to work properly. I just found this photo: Is the spring “mandatory” or just there to keep the dowel from dropping to the floor? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Fenton 1,542 Posted March 3, 2019 As you say, it stops the dowel dropping out if the cable breaks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackherer 543 Posted March 3, 2019 If you don't have the spring you can drill the pin and lockwire it to something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richie-Van-GTi 71 2 Cars Posted March 4, 2019 I can't see a cable causing the clutch to judder but still worth putting a new cable in if it's old and tired. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4ll5op 8 Posted March 4, 2019 (edited) no not the clutch juddering its definitely the cable , when i release my foot its not smooth it kind of jerks back to position feels like it grinds or scrapes. i soaked it in wd40 a couple months back as a test, but its started doing it again now. i can see its starting to fray at the gearbox end aswell. Edited March 4, 2019 by 4ll5op Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4ll5op 8 Posted March 4, 2019 ok so clucth cable is all attached i purchased a FKC1103 this is the same length as the one i took off but tightening up the nuts all the way and pedal is right near the floor. im guessing there is something obvious i have missed/forgot? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackherer 543 Posted March 4, 2019 What about the dowel pin? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4ll5op 8 Posted March 4, 2019 (edited) cant see one but there is a spring there. would there 100% of been one before as nothing had fell out that i can see' or is the pin to replace a missing spring. the other thing i was thinking was the routing of the cable. Edited March 4, 2019 by 4ll5op Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackherer 543 Posted March 4, 2019 100% yes. In the yellow circle in the photo above are the two parts either side of the rod just touching each other on your gearbox? If so that is definitely wrong and wont work properly if at all. Just find a bit of metal rod about 1 inch long and put that in there, you need something for sure. The old one is probably on the road somewhere after falling out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4ll5op 8 Posted March 4, 2019 ok cool ill find something to put in there. will this affect height of pedal then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richie-Van-GTi 71 2 Cars Posted March 4, 2019 Yes, the pin will lift the pedal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4ll5op 8 Posted March 4, 2019 brilliant that must be it. theres a beer for u lads if ur ever passing Telford. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
farmer 328 1 Cars Posted March 5, 2019 If you want a Peugeot rod drop me a mail as got loads but they stop supplying them 2 years back Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4ll5op 8 Posted March 5, 2019 im gonna pop onto the shop floor at work and make one using an ejector pin. what diameter roughly do i need please? thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackherer 543 Posted March 5, 2019 They're probably about 8-10mm max. If you look at the clutch fork and arm where the rod sits there is a cup shape to receive it and it needs to be rounded to match that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
