Novice, Rust Repair, Were To Start?

[pugfrank 14 1 Cars]

Hello,

After some guidance in tackerling the areas of rust on my car. I'm a complete novice to dealing with rust on a car, I really want to tackle it my self, as "A" don't have the funds to pay a professional and "B" just really want to have a go and say I did that.

 

The car is off the road for the next couple of months as other commitments are getting in the way, so thought this would be an ideal time to tackle and tidy up these few areas of bodywork.

 

Ok so I applied some rust stopper to the areas of bubberling about a year ago, and rust on out side doesn't seem to have gotten much worse, but what's the inside doing? That's why I want to sort it now to hopefully avoid a major repair, fingered crossed anyway.

 

The areas that require attention are the bottom of both B pillars where it meets the cill/door shut and rear cill where it meets the lower quarter.

I'm really after a step by step quick guide of tools to remove rust bubbles and paint first, then I will be able to post photos of the repair required and hopefully you guys can tell me how to do the next stage.

 

Many thanks for you help and advice in advance guys.

[pugfrank 14 1 Cars]

Ok so managed to work out how to upload some images, this is what I have to tackle.

[Alan_M 66 1 Cars]

Well done for wanting to tackle it yourself. I'm no bodywork expert but have attached a couple of threads regarding the repair of the sill. Quite sure yours isn't as bad as those below. You need to get an idea of the extent of rot by grinding off the paint/rust. Remove interior panels and see how far rot has got inside behind the panel. You may find it'll need chopping out and new good metal welded back in (B pillar doesn't look too bad from the photo though, not so sure about the rear quarter panel).

 

http://forum.205gtidrivers.com/index.php?showtopic=158506

 

http://forum.205gtidrivers.com/index.php?showtopic=147561

[allye 530 3 Cars]

That's a fairly hefty to repair to get started on!

[Leslie green 109]

Take the 1/4 panel doorcard off inside and see what you are dealing with first before attacking the outside ,really doesn't look bad just the seam sealer has cracked with age as they all do allowing water in,any welding here is very hard to hide and isn't really a good place to start for a novice as the panels will warp easily.All you may need is to remove the seam sealer clean it down and apply some anti-rust treatment and reseal it.

[pugfrank 14 1 Cars]

Thanks for the quick response guys, so first I will take a look behind rear door cards and report back.

What's the best tool to clean up area on outside? The area at bottom of B pillar is quite a tight angle.

Ill also looking into seam sealer.

[Mikey S 29 1 Cars]

A flap wheel on a drill will get into most of the tight areas in the b post area.

 

A sharpened screwdriver will enable you to scrape the sealant out of the area between the quarter panel and sill. Be prepared for nastys when you get into it though, Rust usually comes from inside out!

 

Mike

[pugfrank 14 1 Cars]

http://www.screwfix.com/p/titan-abrasive-flap-wheel-80g-60-x-30mm/78877?kpid=KINASEKPID&cm_mmc=GoogleLocal-_-Datafeed-_-Tools&cm_mmc=Google-_-Product%2520Listing%2520Ads-_-Sales%2520Tracking-_-sales%2520tracking%2520url&gclid=CP2G7Z-N1tMCFe4Q0wodErUE6A&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=CO6E_Z-N1tMCFVMg0wod7IsMuQ

[Leslie green 109]

Thes flat wire wheels in a drill will get into the seam easily and are not too aggressive to wear though steel.

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brand-New-24pc-Wire-Brush-Set-Crimped-Steel-Cup-Flat-Brushes-Drill-Wheel-Tools-/232298770220?hash=item361615ef2c:g:ASQAAOSwymxVOP6f

[Tom Fenton 1,541]

Driving wheels with a drill isn't really powerful enough to get it all out of the seam.

 

You are better off with an angle grinder driven wire wheel of the twisted knot type.

[Leslie green 109]

Those drill mounted flat ones are fairly good I've used them in the past to clean down lots of rusty metal bits but yes a flat angle grinder wheel will remove everything including the 1/4 panel metalwork if it catches on a hole !!! Need to keep a good hold of those things with both hands and wear goggles and welding gloves ,have used them to clean down the underside of a car to bare metal.

[pugfrank 14 1 Cars]

Thanks guys for the tool info, I will take are and make sure I'm wear the correct PPE, lol. I'll report back with my findings and no doubt some more questions in time.

[Leon 24]

If that was my car I'd

 

A) Take off the "door" card and look inside the panel to make sure it isn't completely rotted out from the inside (it isn't always!)

 

Assuming it isn't, I'd use a knotted wheel or a strip disc on the outside, really get into the seam

 

C) Apply Jenolite/Bilt Hamber or whatever your preferred rust eater is

 

D) Apply a stabiliser or converter like Hydrate80

 

E) Fill any blemishes, prime and paint

 

Of course of it IS galloping rot when you take off the door card, we have a different situation.

[flyfisher 6 2 Cars]

Hi I've been in the body repair trade for 35 years if it was mine I would cut all the corrosion out weld in fresh metal remove inner trims and cavity wax inner sections only way you will stop this long term a lot of work but it's the way to go