Juddering When Pulling Away /at Slow Speed/1St 2Nd Gear

[parv121 3]

hi,

 

can anyone point me in the right direction.

205 cti 1.6 xu5j

 

1/ when i pull away or driving very slow in 1st or 2nd i get a very annoying judder now and again. make you go back and forwards in ur seat. if feel i have to make extra effort with the speed and smoothness of my gear change to stop it happening. But it's not just when i change gear, its also when i go to speed up in 1st or 2nd gear. if you holding a cup of tea it would be everywhere. but when i spedding from 3rd gear onwards and foot to the floor there is no problem. it really ruins the ride.

 

2/ also when i and driving if i take and foot completly off the gas pedal it not has smooth as id think, its like a fuel cut off and then if i hit the gas after coasting again it a bit heavy/rough, like wholup! not like a smooth pick up, just straight in!.... is this how all 205's are?

 

 

can my first problem be the clutch?

anyhelp would be appreciated greatly

[Gaz205 50]

I'm no expert on the 205 clutch/box but on previous cars from fords to bmw diesels a judder when pulling off was usually a clutch or in their case a dual mass flywheel. Certainly sounds like a good guess at a clutch unless the engine is running that poor that it's missing and vibrating the mounts. Can you feel the judder through the clutch pedal?

[welshpug 1,661]

sounds more like what is commonly called "kangarooing" which is caused by poor setup and worn components in the engine management system and engine mountings

[parv121 3]

hi,

thanks gareth and mei for taking time to reply.

 

gareth, nah not any obvious sign of clutch pedal judder .

 

"kangarooing" yes someone else has told me this. in terms of engine management components do you mean the various sensors involved in the injections systems. ie: temp sensors , pressure sensors etc? most of which connect to the loom in the engine bay.

Mai, do you think i should preform a compression test on each cylinder first before replacing sensors etc?.. i have the compression test kit.

[Telf 224 2 Cars]

Parv,

 

probably overkill to do a compression test!

 

As mei says - poor setup or a knackered component. Start with the basics - I had similar issues a while ago- tried lots of fancy things- missed the basics. Check your dizzy rotor arm ( I had one burnt through causing kangarooing).

 

Make sure your spark is good- are your leads/plugs new- again had an issue with a lead that I swore was ok - nope it wasn't - had a tiny hole at the plug end causing the spark to earth onto the engine block.

 

Is the car idling ok when cold/hot? Are there any other symptoms?

 

Good luck- Don't go mad initially looking for expensive fixes- basics basics first!

[parv121 3]

Hi telf,

 

Car idles fine. Starts straight away on the turn of the key. Revs high to start for the cold start then drops down for normal idling at about 950-ish rpm. Rev are rock solid on idle and don't bounce. Doesn't stall anytime when idling or driving.

No other symptoms to report to be fair.

[Telf 224 2 Cars]

well strangely I've had an issue today, slight misfire, hesitation etc, was:

 

1 a failed sparkplug (no idea why!)

2 a tiny split appeared on the 90 degree elbow into the TPS/inlet manifold

 

whilst it ran ok and seemed to be pulling ok with these 2 issues fixed its now much better.

 

I'd do as I said a full check of all pipes and ignition basics before you check anything else.

[Telf 224 2 Cars]

on that if anybody has a 90 elbow from AFM to Inlet for sale and also the larger pipe from the oil filler cap to the elbow please PM me! I would like a pair in good condition - Thanks!