Jap Export Gti

[lloyd1986 2 1 Cars]

Hi guyd after abit more info on a car ive bought ive bought it thinking it was a 1.9 gti but after stripping it ive noticed alot of 1.6 bits on it can anyone explain to me more about the spec of a jap spec car ???

[iPlod999 143 1 Cars]

What are the last 3 of the reg?

[lloyd1986 2 1 Cars]

K972 avc

[iPlod999 143 1 Cars]

AVC and BKV were the VRM's given to the export models.

 

Also had air con, power steering and a catalytic converter.

Edited July 10, 2016 by iPlod999

[iPlod999 143 1 Cars]

Would have had 1.6 wheels and cloth interior.

[lloyd1986 2 1 Cars]

It has the remains of aircon it also has abs, power steering and a cat but doing a vic check and it states that its a gentry 1.9 auto yet what I have found its the wrong colour it has standard half leather and a be3 box not auto

Edited July 10, 2016 by lloyd1986

[iPlod999 143 1 Cars]

Yep. Export model.

 

Auto, drum brakes at the rear.

 

Lower powered engine, 105 BHP, to meet Japanese emission regs at the time.

 

That's about all I think. I'm sure others will know more.

[camgti 56]

We got the same cars here in OZ. (no auto though)

 

Its basically a 1.6 with a detuned 1.9 donk. All running gear is 1.6 spec.

[lloyd1986 2 1 Cars]

I think the only thing thats a 1.9 gti is the engine shafts and hubs

[welshpug 1,657]

I believe that is an abs thing.

[petert 586]

I think the only thing thats a 1.9 gti is the engine shafts and hubs

I think you'll find it's a DFZ with 1.6 shafts and hubs.

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

Yes 1.6 ABS models used 1.9 running gear and odd offset wheels to keep the 1.6 stance, Chuck the chassis number in service box or PM it to someone and all the build info will be on there, Loads have been changed to manual so that means nothing

[griffo 15 1 Cars]

Ok, if you jam in the VIN at http://205gti.info you can confirm a few aspects on the car... a few more than SB will offer up.

[griffo 15 1 Cars]

I have a few questions about these Japanese Auto GTi's living in the UK.

 

According to 'Sporting Peugeot 205s' and echoed in the 'Essential Buyers Guide', these GTi's appeared on the UK market in 1992.

 

Now I have data for three of these GTi's from UK sources and they all have 'build dates' in September 1990 which makes me wonder whether these were part of the failed export that is referred to in the books or a prior situation as I would not think these cars would be languishing in a warehouse for over a year.

 

The options of A/C is standard for 'Hot Climate' markets like Japan and Australia and the addition of P/S makes these probably the first GTis with this combination.

I was surprised to see ABS installed as the underlying data does not show this as an explicit option and I wonder if the other Jap Auto GTi's in the UK also had ABS.

 

I have seen a December 1990 build Japanese Auto GTi over here in AU which was imported from Japan and it did have the A/C and P/S but I don't think it had ABS.

 

So did other Jap Auto GTi's in the UK have ABS?

 

Cheers

 

griffo

[2-Pugs 57]

Neil, based on my limited experience of breaking one of these Jap 309's a few years back, that didn't have ABS, and a Jap CTI that I know of also doesn't have ABS.

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

No Jap Export model I;ve seen had ABS, That's CTi, GTi and 309 GTi

[griffo 15 1 Cars]

OK, so it sounds like lloyd1986's 'Auto' has had this retrofitted then along with the manual gearbox etc. The serial number on the gearbox might give a clue :-)

 

Any thoughts on the gap between production and the 1992 release date?

[ian65 0]

interested to read this thread, my 1.9 GTI has the reg AVC on a K plate but has been a 1.9GTI (DKZ) manual from new...

 

 

It's equipped with Motronic, has got the remains of a/c and has power steering, discs all round etc

 

 

servicebox confirms this as does the vin decoder on this forum...

 

 

The car was 1st registered by Peugeot Talbot Motor Co, Coventry on 30.09.92 and then sold by them on 10.02.1993

 

It also has this black box at the top of the O/S inner wing by the vin plate which I've been told is something that the Jap market cars had?

Edited July 22, 2016 by ian65

[griffo 15 1 Cars]

Thanks for submitting the VIN Ian, every car, especially these rare models helps build a picture of what transpired.

 

The 'black box' is an exhaust temperature sensor which appears to have been mandated by the Japanese authorities for a period of time to warn if the exhaust temps were too high which could damage the cat... or somesuch. I believe it activates a warning light on the dash.

 

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The Jap GTi I saw locally had a DFZ engine and also had this control unit. It had a 'Build date' of 12/90, so your car makes me think it was one of the earliest Jap DKZ vehicles. I wonder why is wasn't shipped to Japan?

 

It's curious that the first registration date is so much later than the build date (over 18 months) which appears to be a similar delay to the Jap Auto GTis.

 

One last thing, the sunroof is not showing up as an explicit option, so it makes me think this part of the build like the A/C and P/S.

 

Cheers

[forbeslongden 32 13 Cars]

Was this the red car that was partially stripped from Gumtree in the South West?

[lloyd1986 2 1 Cars]

No its a graphite grey one I bought.

and after reading all these comments

Ive learnt abit more about the car cheers guys