erbs 42 1 Cars Posted February 28, 2016 looking at charts on the net, not any plug looks like mine. looks ok but would like a experienced eye on this images upload imgurl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slo 283 1 Cars Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) running lean and hot/overheating that Edited February 28, 2016 by Slo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toolie72 67 1 Cars Posted February 28, 2016 Tan colours what you want-mine are always black-too rich Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erbs 42 1 Cars Posted February 28, 2016 Mmmmm! strange that, it was over fueling, must need setting up again ,just changed the ecu temp sensor yesterday, didn't think it had that much of an effect Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slo 283 1 Cars Posted February 28, 2016 They are tanned but look too pale so probably needs a slight mixture adjustement. Has it pinked at all? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bobbafett 49 2 Cars Posted February 28, 2016 Is it a ph2 cat with a lambda? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acox99 74 1 Cars Posted February 28, 2016 I would say the plugs are running to hot, which would indicate it's a lean, what plugs are they? Are they correct specification for the engine, and is it standard? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miles 331 1 Cars Posted February 28, 2016 Stick some NGK's in there, Bosch are well known for not being that great, Even had a couple of sets that didn;t even work when brand new Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erbs 42 1 Cars Posted February 29, 2016 They are tanned but look too pale so probably needs a slight mixture adjustement. Has it pinked at all? Yes it started pinking a little,it was a bit strange, cozy I got the ignition timing spot on,I think th AFM is about 2 turns from being out, did this coz it was running rich,changed temp sensor for Bosch part as old one was a pattern part, now running lean Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erbs 42 1 Cars Posted February 29, 2016 I would say the plugs are running to hot, which would indicate it's a lean, what plugs are they? Are they correct specification for the engine, and is it standard? Bosch plugs,will get some NGKs today, yes it's completely standard Is it a ph2 cat with a lambda? Phase 1 and no sensor on exhaust,not a cat system Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erbs 42 1 Cars Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) Stick some NGK's in there, Bosch are well known for not being that great, Even had a couple of sets that didn;t even work when brand new Going to get today, bcp6es plugs, if running lean,altering the mixture on the AFM won't do much,how do I get it to richen up more? Edited February 29, 2016 by erbs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erbs 42 1 Cars Posted February 29, 2016 I forgot to mention that it was hard to start when hot, only just started doing this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acox99 74 1 Cars Posted February 29, 2016 Low fuel pressure? Could be a faulty regulator Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erbs 42 1 Cars Posted February 29, 2016 Low fuel pressure? Could be a faulty regulator changed that coz it was faulty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,666 Posted February 29, 2016 plug colour isn't particularly relevant these days with the different additives and lack of leaded fuels, you are best getting it on an emissions tester, or even better, a RR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erbs 42 1 Cars Posted February 29, 2016 i'm off to see miles with the 309 goodwood,he's got an emissions unit that we can put on test i turned the afm in a few more turns, the plugs looks a lot better now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acox99 74 1 Cars Posted February 29, 2016 Afm only affects the mixture at idle The Afm screw should I say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,666 Posted February 29, 2016 Afm only affects the mixture at idle The Afm screw should I say. no, they have an effect on fuelling at all rpm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Fenton 1,548 Posted February 29, 2016 Sorry I disagree The screw is an air bypass, it basically introduces a small air leak past the airflow meter at idle which is a crude way of altering the idle mixture. As soon as the revs rise the flap opens sufficiently that there will be little or no airflow through the idle passage, as the vacuum is less due to the main flap having opened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anthony 1,003 Posted February 29, 2016 Tom's on the money with this one - it will only have any meaningful effect on fuelling at idle. Messing around with the spring tension however will impact fuelling across the board, which is why it's such a bad idea when people do that for MOT emissions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erbs 42 1 Cars Posted February 29, 2016 The AFM works as its been tested, would never mess with tension on the AFM, more trouble than it's worth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites