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dobboy

205Rallee, the vendor may be advertising it on here which is fair enough, but i don't think there is anybody on here who would buy it.

 

After seeing numerous ebay high pricers being rightfully and wrongfully ripped to bits on here, it's a brave man who even tries to sell for very top dollar on here, and the more info/pics provided on it, the more negatives can and will be picked up on it.

 

That aside, I think most on here would rather have a good clean low owner, low mileage, honest car, or alternatively, do a refurb themselves.

 

I didn't even believe that you could even spend 20k on a standard GTI until mrfirepro said it could be done, even now i still struggle to see where the money can be spent.

 

Hopefully we'll find out how much it goes for, if it does sell.

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allye

Paint and interior retrim could be north of £6k straight away!

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dobboy

Ok allye, (this car hasn't had a retrim btw) where else is the big money? Engine rebuild, beam, bumpers/trim, wheel refurb?

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Slo

Whats the other thread about this car? and whats ACA when its at home?

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Slo

Ta, thats why i never saw it I never bother reading threads like that, shall read it now though.

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allanallen

Ok allye, (this car hasn't had a retrim btw) where else is the big money? Engine rebuild, beam, bumpers/trim, wheel refurb?

People are charging nearly £500 for new mudflaps and £1000 for arch trims, do the sums!

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David1982

People are charging nearly £500 for new mudflaps and £1000 for arch trims, do the sums!

I was quoted £2500 for a set of arches and inserts... Prices of parts for these cars are mad money. The list goes on!!!

 

Over £100 for front and rear washer bottles. Crazy.

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allanallen

Sellers take advantage of people that haven't got the time/sense/knowledge to source or restore parts themselves. It doesn't mean parts aren't available for more sensible money.

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nveeate

I was quoted £2500 for a set of arches and inserts... Prices of parts for these cars are mad money. The list goes on!!!

 

Over £100 for front and rear washer bottles. Crazy.

I remember when I had 205 GTIs back in the late 90s, the first thing I used to do was remove the cheap/nasty mudflaps. I don't understand the current fascination with them - certainly not at £500!

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Juttie205

I think it looks nice a little over done in places as I don't like painted engines and gearbox's etc as they was never like that from new but to me the idea of restorations is to restore and improve where possible as these are old cars and things can be improved that to me don't affect what they are worth.

 

If you look at the ford escorts and minis that all get restored these are far better then oem and people don't seem to mind and will pay the high premiums they deserve as for spending nearly 20k I can appreciate that as I'm not far off that with my dimma probably and a lot of that goes on to the hard to find parts or rare parts. People say that dimmas are worth over 20k now I don't see it but if its what I can get mine valued at I will be happy. Good luck with the sale I feel it will make good money but may struggle to get what you are wanting.

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David1982

Yeah

I think it looks nice a little over done in places as I don't like painted engines and gearbox's etc as they was never like that from new but to me the idea of restorations is to restore and improve where possible as these are old cars and things can be improved that to me don't affect what they are worth.If you look at the ford escorts and minis that all get restored these are far better then oem and people don't seem to mind and will pay the high premiums they deserve as for spending nearly 20k I can appreciate that as I'm not far off that with my dimma probably and a lot of that goes on to the hard to find parts or rare parts. People say that dimmas are worth over 20k now I don't see it but if its what I can get mine valued at I will be happy. Good luck with the sale I feel it will make good money but may struggle to get what you are wanting.

I honestly think it will do 20k if nice series one turbos mk1 golf are 20 plus then why shouldn't 205 Gti be? They are a better looking better driving car and yes there are lots of cars left but not many restrations simply because they have warranted doing one because of part prices etc. Thanks for your input and looks like a nice job your doing on the Dimma.

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farmer

Still waiting for any dealer to say (on a serious level) anybody has been trying to track down parts (abroad)

 

5 years and counting so far

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David1982

Sellers take advantage of people that haven't got the time/sense/knowledge to source or restore parts themselves. It doesn't mean parts aren't available for more sensible money.

In some cases yes. But the 205 prices are nuts. The mk1 golf you can buy literally everything reproduction the 205 is a hole different game. If your looking for new parts they are a difficult time consuming expensive car to put together. Although worth it in my opinion because at the end of the day they are iconic and the best if the lot regarding hit hatches

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speno

I think it looks nice a little over done in places as I don't like painted engines and gearbox's etc as they was never like that from new but to me the idea of restorations is to restore and improve where possible as these are old cars and things can be improved that to me don't affect what they are worth.

 

If you look at the ford escorts and minis that all get restored these are far better then oem and people don't seem to mind and will pay the high premiums they deserve as for spending nearly 20k I can appreciate that as I'm not far off that with my dimma probably and a lot of that goes on to the hard to find parts or rare parts. People say that dimmas are worth over 20k now I don't see it but if its what I can get mine valued at I will be happy. Good luck with the sale I feel it will make good money but may struggle to get what you are wanting.

Who is saying Dimma's are worth over 20k or more to the question who has paid 20k for an original dimma ?

Mine is one owner, original dimma invoice , low miles, every mot ,every tax disk Its never been kept outside .Now i think my car would be top top money for that

For me originality is the key

The trouble is like most things is life it not what you know its who you know

 

David you come across to me as more of a dealer/profiteer which on an enthusiasts site some folk don't like

(just saying like ;0)

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David1982

Speno I'm a modern classic car enthusiast and to keep wetting my appetite for new toys you have to sell cars along the line for others to enjoy. I'm certainly not a car dealer I just enjoy restoring these iconic cars and on to the next one. If I was a dealer/profiteer as you put it I would put all that money into a car that's not YET brought the sort of money I think these cars are worth.

 

I work on my cars after work and at weekends like everyone else. I'm just having the cars I wanted when I was 17 and couldn't afford then. It's just a hobby certenly not a way of making money I can assure you speno.,

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Juttie205

1 of the signature ones the first one sold for 20k and I believe 3 and 4 where converted for close to that price and I know what number 2 cost to be done and I have heard what number 5 is costing to be honest they are all originals even mine and the new ones as they still use the genuine original kits. I don't believe they are worth that sort of money and I have seen some up for sale for big money and they don't sell but if that's what people are valuing them at who am I to complain.

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speno

Speno I'm a modern classic car enthusiast and to keep wetting my appetite for new toys you have to sell cars along the line for others to enjoy. I'm certainly not a car dealer I just enjoy restoring these iconic cars and on to the next one. If I was a dealer/profiteer as you put it I would put all that money into a car that's not YET brought the sort of money I think these cars are worth.

 

I work on my cars after work and at weekends like everyone else. I'm just having the cars I wanted when I was 17 and couldn't afford then. It's just a hobby certenly not a way of making money I can assure you speno.,

I'm just saying how you come across David to some folk .

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David1982

No just a lover of all things hot hatch

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speno

1 of the signature ones the first one sold for 20k and I believe 3 and 4 where converted for close to that price and I know what number 2 cost to be done and I have heard what number 5 is costing to be honest they are all originals even mine and the new ones as they still use the genuine original kits. I don't believe they are worth that sort of money and I have seen some up for sale for big money and they don't sell but if that's what people are valuing them at who am I to complain.

Oh yes I forgot about the no 1 car did it sell for 20k tho or was it good marketing. I know what no 2 cost but how much is it worth it? OK to say ant piled a load of money into it, it don't make it worth that much does it. No idea about 3 or 4. it was 10 grand to convert a car last time I spoke to terry last year

To me an original dimma is one built back in the day . Yours is a different thing all together I it's own right. Does having a dimma kit make the car a true original dimma ?

I think some folk will agree and some folk won't again I'm just saying

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Anthony

No just a lover of all things hot hatch

Isn't the love when it comes to a hot-hatch actually driving it in anger and enjoying it, something which this sort of car will likely never get used for?

 

I've nothing personally against those who want to restore a car to the nth degree, I just think that it's somewhat of a waste if it's never driven and enjoyed which is after all it's raison d'être.

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Juttie205

I totally agree yep the 10k is just for kit and wheels etc but if you have interior and other work done the price increases after owning a original one I would never purchase one again as unless the kit is removed you never know what its hiding even my old one looked good on the rear only to find it was rotten as a pear and the only way to see it was to remove kit.

I believe if the kit is genuine it can be classed as original my car has never been anything other than a dimma like some of the orignals back in the day and even some of them were not done straight from dealer as my red one had a kit fitted before a phase 1 dimma according to the plaque so some cars were brought driven then decided to have kit fitted at a later date so no different than what is being done now.

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David1982

Yes I agree but it's also a nice feeling finishing a car and thinking this car will be still here in years to come for someone else to enjoy.

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Juttie205

I know it might be hard to believe but mine will be used as much as I can once complete I have just chosen to build mine to the standard I wanted from the start which was allways a full nut and bolt restoration.

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