What's A Near Perfect Nut And Bolt Resto 1.9 Gti Worth?

[ATK 143 1 Cars]

Get the finished pics up then buddy!

[David1982 11 1 Cars]

Yeah I'm gonna send them over to Paul to get them up. I'm useless with computers so I'll get them over to Paul.

[dobboy 231 2 Cars]

David, DCC's post may sound harsh but when you're talking big bucks like you are, for anyone who knows 205's (like DCC and many others) it would have to be near perfect.....and if i was a buyer i'd be looking for 1-2 previous owners, low milage, and original.....and i'd be looking for an earlier car. The £10k car i showed you is more a £20k car "to me" than yours if i'm being honest.

 

Nobody wants to critisise your car or your efforts as you say you've spent 20 on it (which i struggle to understand how unless you've paid silly money for parts) but if you genuinely want to know what doesn't look right you should put up pics and don't take it personally when people tell you what's not right.

 

Few things i noticed was fuel rail, regulator, and cam belt cover are wrong finish/colour, maybe someone else can confirm to be sure.

 

Or roll with what you've got ????

[David1982 11 1 Cars]

Yeah I agree and am gratefull for any help like yours and several others. As for dcc his comments were a joke really considering the way he's put his car together although I will take some of what he has said on board. I'm open to changing everything that's not rite and making my car as nice as possible. I disagree with certain comments regarding what the car is worth as I've had a really strong offer already through word of mouth so I think I'm about nearly there to be honest.

[allye 530 3 Cars]

Right*

 

Phew, needed to get that off my chest.

[Bobbafett 49 2 Cars]

18k is big money. But you can look at it that if someone is willing to pay 18 so willingly; someone else might pay 20+ just as willingly. Don't underestimate the wealthy and their desire for the absolute best of everything.

[Mac Crash 78 1 Cars]

18k is big money. But you can look at it that if someone is willing to pay 18 so willingly; someone else might pay 20+ just as willingly. Don't underestimate the wealthy and their desire for the absolute best of everything.

 

Exactly, does look nice though.... but being realistic, I'd say that the 205 simply isn't rare enough yet to achieve that kind of money.

[dcc 855]

The problem is I do what I can afford, if you've really spent £20k on it then you don't stand to make any money, it was kind of a poor investment - conversly I've never lost any money on any 205 I've ever built or bought.

 

Tom fenton, Craig, stew baker, magic - these people all have genuinely nice cars, which no doubt stand them at less money than yours, but also are much more original and worth more than yours in real terms.

 

Yes my car ie thrown together, but yes my car will go off the clock, it will survive any abuse I throw at it, it will get used daily and I will never give a flying f*ck that it isnt original. I mean I don't really care what so ever about it. If I crash it I'll just buy another shell and build it again, because I can do that, I don't have to pay other people to do it for me. Or atleast pay them to make it look pretty but not original.

 

Why haven't I built a show car? I'm no bodywork specialist, im no perfectionist, but these cars weren't all built to be put on a stand. To be honest, they are the wrong car to restore for an investment - you'd be better off with a mk1 mustang for that. As for my cars, I am happy with all of them as I am not oretending they are something which they're not. Obviously I'd hit a few nerves with my honest comments earlier.

 

P.s. I hope you didn't pay much for the respray, they didnt even bother to do a proper job.

[speno 239 2 Cars]

There is only one winner with concourse builds his name is Farmer ;0)

[Simes 248 2 Cars]

Take the offer, please.

[David1982 11 1 Cars]

If I want to build a £500 nail I know who to ask. There is only a handful of these cars out there in real nice condition plenty of lovely cars but not as many mint mint ones left I really think these cars are 20k plus cars at any min now. I was at pug fest and was surprised that there were only a handful of realy mint cars there. People said the same to me regarding my mk1 golf 6 or so years ago and look where they are now. Series one rs turbos were 4K for a nice one now they are 25k so these cars are gonna start doing big money any time now.

[allanallen 528 2 Cars]

David, you're missing DCCs point. Remember you've come on an enthusiast forum and asked everyone's opinion. If you wanted positive opinions off everyone you should have come on earlier and asked for advice on building a 'nut and bolt perfect' car, that way enthusiasts and perspective (perhaps clueless) buyers would all hold it in similar regard. Would it be worth anymore if it was perfect..... I don't think it would.

I'd take the 18k or if you're in a position store it away somewhere with a view to it increasing in value.

Edited February 3, 2016 by allanallen

[Alastairh 47]

I think Wayne Carini would be put off by the floor pan damage from the 2 poster.

 

Take the 18k, it seems a reasonable offer for a non original car.

[David1982 11 1 Cars]

Yeah he sure would that's been repaired since. So Wayne would be ok with it I think. I wasn't coming on here for positive comments I was coming to get the rite info to put the car as near to perfect as possible. Some of the DC's comments were a bit silly considering he's building £1500 pound cars at best 18k was a first offer off a car collector who understands appreciating 80's classic cars. I think I'm gonna hold out for 20k on the car as I've only seen one car better than my resto since I've finished it and that's mrfirepro car.

[allye 530 3 Cars]

Some of the DC's comments were a bit silly considering he's building £1500 pound cars at best.

I assume you mean £1500 on engine go faster bits?

[David1982 11 1 Cars]

No I mean £1500 cars at best. Noisy boy racer £1500 car. That's what he has isn't it?

[Tom Fenton 1,547]

Right thats enough, I've had enough of your sniping at DCC just because you didn't like his comments. If I'm honest most of what he said was actually constructive critiscism. Not all, but most.

But you are now making yourself look silly David, so it stops now please.

[David1982 11 1 Cars]

If you read my post Tom I said I agree with some of what DC said. It's a bit of banter that's all I don't agree with some of his comments either so responded in a manner that he spoke to me. No biggy really is it.

[Tom Fenton 1,547]

No I don't agree, banter goes both ways, what you are doing is repeatedly having a dig in an attempt to get a response, which will just escalate into a slanging match, so like I said, it stops now.

[Simes 248 2 Cars]

Agreed.

[David1982 11 1 Cars]

I don't agree with that at all. Your opinion is your opinion Tom but it wasn't meant to be having a dig at dc. Although some of his comments were in my opinion stupid. But he's entitled to an opinion as is everyone else.

 

It was banter from where I'm standing.

Edited February 3, 2016 by David1982

[dcc 855]

Tom, thanks for your input I haven't taken any of what hes said seriously.

 

David - To be honest I didn't even pay for my current shell. I also don't care about being branded a boyracer, it is what it is. I don't pretend I have built something which it is not. I know every tolerance is perfect, but not as perfect as the feeling when I drive it, let alone the banging noise it makes when she starts up and the sound track of the trumpety noise making thingymabobs bolted to the front of the engine (which by the way are worth their weight in gold when compared to pleasure factor). The car handles superbly as you'd expect from a 30year old nail, my '£500 nail' as you put it puts a bigger smile on my face than your £20,000 poorly executed investment ever will

 

Im confused as to why you'd turn your nose up at a £18k offer when earlier you'd be happy to take 15/16k. Or maybe this 18k offer isn't quite what your telling us, maybe it isnt an £18k at all.

 

I forget how much I have spent on my 205, but it wouldnt be leaving my mits for under £10.87 and a marsbar. I'd value mine more than yours, I know everything with mine has been done properly. It's had 2 years of death given to it and it has never let me down, so far your immaculate nut and bolt rebuild has let you down at the first hurdle - trying to impress 'purists' with a few photos online

 

As soon as you came here trying to show off the money you'd spent on your car I felt sorry for you, to feel the need to tell everone how much money your 205 had cost you... Well kind of sums up exactly what you were after. In short your car is only worth the money which some idiot will give you for it. If you have an idiot offer you 3k more than you'd expect at auction (without having to pay fees and costs) then fair enough - but from your pointof view you'd better hope the idiot likes things which look clean rather than original, or atleast doesnt know what it's meant to look like if original. I wonder where you'd stand advertising or selling a car as nut and bolt perfect original rebuild when its not?

[Dizzee stuff 33 1 Cars]

I would sell mine for 18k anyone?

[David1982 11 1 Cars]

Some idiot as you put it has just paid 20k for it so the car can't be that bad dc. But then again you clearly like the other end of the market witch is fine if that's all you can afford. Yes some of my car ain't original but it's a resto so it ain't going to be. It's a job that I have done myself to the best of my ability and to be honest first person to see it who has a very good knowledge of cars that are the next big money cars has just given me what I consider top money. So please don't feel sorry for me. I've enjoyed doing a 205 and there's now another what I consider mint 205 Gti on the road so even you should've happy with that.

[dobboy 231 2 Cars]

Some idiot as you put it has just paid 20k for it so the car can't be that bad dc. But then again you clearly like the other end of the market witch is fine if that's all you can afford. Yes some of my car ain't original but it's a resto so it ain't going to be. It's a job that I have done myself to the best of my ability and to be honest first person to see it who has a very good knowledge of cars that are the next big money cars has just given me what I consider top money. So please don't feel sorry for me. I've enjoyed doing a 205 and there's now another what I consider mint 205 Gti on the road so even you should've happy with that.

Noooooooo waaaaaay?!