[Car_Restoration] 205 Gr Project Car

[woodymi16 24 2 Cars]

Various bits on these sites

 

http://205gti-nfp.co.uk/?page_id=2

 

http://205gti-nfp.co.uk/?page_id=5

 

http://www.bakerbm.com/205.php?data=205bumpermounts

 

http://www.bakerbm.com/205.php?data=205bumperkitf

[Telf 224 2 Cars]

Graham,

 

Thanks for the links

[Telf 224 2 Cars]

small update, carburettor stripped, cleaned an reassembled with a service kit. Now having problems setting it up properly. Bumpers nor fitted yet due to the weather!

[Telf 224 2 Cars]

Fitted the bumpers today- GT front valance with silver strip and a matching rear. I think it looks pretty good

 

 

[Telf 224 2 Cars]

Respray coming soon..... DIY job so could be amusing!

[Telf 224 2 Cars]

Another small update.

 

From my other thread - I had been having a problem with the car hesitating/spluttering and suspected the carb.

 

We removed the carb for a second time - stripped it and soaked all the parts in a tub of cola. Rinsed the whole lot in boiling water and then sprayed again in carb cleaner. Reassembled, refitted and voila! It now runs as it should.

 

I had read this might work and had tried using just carb cleaner previously which didn't work at all. I can only assume the mildly acidic cola de-tarnished the copper parts/channels.

[Telf 224 2 Cars]

The next job on the hit list is to sort the stiff/floaty steering. I've got a thread open about it separately. So first off is remove/inspect/clean the Universal joint as suggested and see if that works!

[Telf 224 2 Cars]

UJ lubricated and exercised then taken for a figure of 8 circuit around a local car park- fault fixed -- hooray!

[Telf 224 2 Cars]

Well this is annoying! Having cleaned the carb and reassembled it appeared to be running ok. I took the teenager for a driving lesson in his car this weekend (private road) and the problem has come back.

 

So far I've changed the fuel filter and stripped/cleaned and reassembled the carb twice.

 

I've noticed it has an issue starting(it tends to stand for a week between uses) and takes a lot of faffing with the choke it make it start. It then runs ok but seems to start stuttering once the engines warm. It is quite a bad hesitation - you can have your foot down and almost no acceleration although it slowly does pick up.

 

It sounds like it isn't firing on all cylinders but then once up to speed its ok.

 

The engine isn't using water or much oil. The oil looks ok- no water in it etc, the water isn't boiling so I'm presuming the cylinders/head are ok.

 

I'm a bit stumped other than thinking that the carb isn't set up properly but it only has 1 screw to turn and that's it!

 

Any body got any ideas?

[Anthony 1,003]

If it's dropping a cylinder and misfiring under load are you sure it's not an ignition issue?

[Telf 224 2 Cars]

I guess its possible- sparks are new so that leaves the leads,dizzy and coil. I will investigate further

 

Cheers Anthony

Edited May 26, 2016 by Telf

[toolie72 67 1 Cars]

Does it rev ok when out of gear? I had plug/lead issues on my 1.9 after it came out of storage-obvious but I almost poopooed it as being too obvious-I went to pull lead of plug and it broke-swapped the lot-no further issues

My fault would appear maybe every fortnight?? Erratic BUT always under load and as I say really simple-i was blaming everything else

Good indicator might be plug colour, if it's soaking in petrol then it's safe to say it isn't firing

[Telf 224 2 Cars]

GRRR!

 

Found a hole in the side wall of one of the leads- the spark is jumping to the inside of the plug hole intermittently. Sounds like a clicking when you apply throttle directly at the carb (bonnet open).

 

So new set of leads required.

 

Cheers guys - typical to overlook/miss and obvious thing like that.

 

Will report back when swapped

[toolie72 67 1 Cars]

In the good old days!?!?!? Ie when I was running sunbeams/avengers and my mates had escort mk1/2s (worth a blooming fortune now-doh!!) we always changed plugs, leads, rotor arms, ford points etc and we accepted that-why should it be different now? It's not is the answer. Why didn't I change my leads earlier? Well, they were red champions, and I couldn't believe they were duff-I sh@t you not they were 15 years old!!! Part of the reason for not just changing them straight away was pessimism I think-bum, cars not working right, what'll it be this time-nothing simple I bet.

Your fault was compounded as you've been in carb so you think you've done something wrong (my driveshaft wobble post)

I now have a king lead and long plug lead in boot just in case so at least that would force me to check it if fault came back

[Telf 224 2 Cars]

SO as planned and a little under a year after acquiring the car we are going to try and respray it on the driveway.

 

Stage 1!

 

Clean up on the existing paint, removal of rust/ scratches/peeled laquer.

 

First things first- bought a pair of masks - 1 so we don't breath in the 30 year old paint dust and 2 - we don't breath in the new paint when it gets sprayed! . Also bought a load of sandpaper (course and fine) and some degreasing wipes.

 

As you can see from the pics the paint is in a fairly bad way:

 

 

[Telf 224 2 Cars]

The plan is to use the old paint as a primer surface for the new by keying the paint with sandpaper and thoroughly degeasing it.

We spent about 3 hours rubbing the paint work down. The worst part is smoothing off the peeled laquer areas

 

[Telf 224 2 Cars]

So now the car doesn't have a shiny panel left and is parked back out the front of the house - with a real rat car look about it - bringing the house prices down!

 

 

[Telf 224 2 Cars]

So stage 1 complete. Panels keyed up to accept paint. Now for stage 1( Removing the various dinks and buzzing out a small amount of rust.

 

Not sure if to use a little bit of filler - having never ever used it so that could be a whole other chapter!

 

Pics of 1( to follow...

[steve@cornwall 100]

Quick tip for glass in respray, if you didn't know. Push a bit of wire, cable, string etc all around the windscreen seal until it stands proud and prep the few mm of surface this reveals.Makes masking simpler,too, just wrap the masking tape over the edge of the seal. Does away with the overspray on seals, slightly missed areas and paint cracking if you but the paintwork to the seal.

[Telf 224 2 Cars]

Thanks steve

[Telf 224 2 Cars]

Stage 1 B

 

derust, and prep of various areas ...

 

there isn't much real rust on the car- but 2 main areas are the rear 1/4 panel and the front wing.

 

So the boy set about rubbing down and treating both areas

 

 

 

[Telf 224 2 Cars]

we then masked it all off and used a rattle can primer and some GTI cherry red to seal the area until we spray it up properly.

 

This was an ideal opportunity for the lad to have a go at spraying for the first time....

 

Many lessons learnt!!

 

[Telf 224 2 Cars]

Today we bought the paint and a spray gun with a pressure regulator and water trap attached.

 

I knew nothing about any of this but now I'm a bit more educated!

 

Total for the paint, thinner and gun £120, added to the masks and a few other bits - £170 so far which is pretty good really!

 

[Telf 224 2 Cars]

SO today I thought we could derust the bonnet. All done and as the car isn't being sprayed for a week I let the boy loose with a rattle can of cherry red so he could see the pitfalls of spraying.....

 

The result

 

I like the cherry red but he insists on it remaining the original burgundy red

Edited August 14, 2016 by Telf

[Telf 224 2 Cars]

I reckon that will take a good hour to rekey for the actual spray job. Many additional lessons learnt. I dare say it will be a bit easier with a proper gun.