Ering Driveshaft Seals

[James Cornell 10]

Just fitted a set of wring driveshaft seals and the driver side is fine but the passenger side is weeping after only 150 miles.

 

Has anyone else had issues with this brand or do you think. I have just been unlucky?

[dcc 855]

Is it sat flush?

[James Cornell 10]

Yes the seal is flush to the box casing

Edited March 5, 2015 by James Cornell

[j_turnell 137 3 Cars]

The seal should be slightly proud, 1-2mm, if the seal is decent quality, it shouldn't leak.

[dcc 855]

I used FEBI seals for my gearbox seals, they never leak, I recently bought a pair of drive shaft seals from Elring but decided against fitting them after reading something about them not sealing quite right. They look identical to the FEBI items.

 

fwiw, you have seated your seal a bit too far in, as above they should be about 2-3mm proud in my experience.

 

I have no idea why these shaft seals struggle to seal with the small difference, as there is nothing on the shaft to stop them sealing.

[unariciflocos 49 1 Cars]

I've seen a small groove on the left shaft. Even machined about 1 mm of its end so that it would go further in, but even with original Peugeot seals I had to leave it about 3 mm proud to stop it leaking. I'd expect absolutely no quality issue with Febi or Elring products. Few things with a Made in Germany stamp have let me down so far, an no, I'm not German.

[welshpug 1,661]

I've used them and febi as dan mentioned without issue, depends on the type but most need to sit proud, its documented in the haynes manual.

[James Cornell 10]

Houston I think we may have found the problem..and I think it is my method of application...to fit the seals I pressed them on gently by hand and then put a large block of wood flat across the seal and the proceded to hit the wood with a mallet until the deal was flush.

 

That'll teach me not to read the manual

[Anthony 1,003]

Yup, it'll be that it is flush - leave it slightly proud and it should be fine.

 

It always strikes me as odd that Peugeot did that rather than extending the gearbox/diff casing a few mm or moving the chamfer on the driveshaft a few mm so that the seal would seal when flush. Maybe they never intended it to need to sit proud, but cocked up the design after a skinful of cheap red wine one lunchtime

 

For reference I've had no issues with Elring seals.

[James Cornell 10]

I am assuming it would be very silly for me to try and remove/refit this seal...better buy a new one

[Anthony 1,003]

Yep - you'll more than likely damage it when you remove it and even though you might not put a monitory value on it, your time is worth more than the cost of a new seal.

[James Cornell 10]

Especially as I have to virtually drive past Spoox on the way home from work...

 

Bit of a obvious one but I thought I would check, if I jack the car up on the passenger side only I should be able to replace the deal without draining the box???

[dcc 855]

2 litres of oil in there - I doubt it, though I think I read fenton had done this a few years ago - for the sake of 2 mins extra work, not worth the mess

[welshpug 1,661]

id use your local factors, be so much cheaper.

 

you can do it without draining if you have s high enough lifting jack, my clarke 3t one does.

[James Cornell 10]

I doubt my third-hand, leacking, 15 year old jack will do it ????