Clutch Pedal Differences

[Juttie205 123 2 Cars]

My car has a 1.6 be3 gearbox fitted when i brought it and im going to put back in a 1.9be1 as it should have I have read that the pedals are different i hope not as I've just had it all powdercoated. If it is is there summit i can change gearbox end when i rebuild the be1 gearbox what do i need to look for to see what pedal i have?.

[Anthony 1,003]

Easy way to tell - BE1 pedal has a hole at cable end, BE3 has a hook.

[welshpug 1,661]

its not specific to BE boxes, its a 1990 changeover thing.

[Juttie205 123 2 Cars]

ok will dig out pedal and have a look thanks.

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

Not all, the very early BE'3 had the pin type which I try and use on car's that run uprated clutch covers as the plastic is weak point.

But they are dead easy to find, I've got a couple I have just removed from some earlier car's

[dobboy 231 2 Cars]

There is a cable that can run a be3 box from a be1 style pedal, you might be lucky that this has been used previously on yours.

 

(On a VTS box thread DCC posted a pic of BE3 pedal for me. If you want to see what it looks like.

[Juttie205 123 2 Cars]

looks like i have a hook pedal end take it will be ok with be1 gearbox?

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

No, you need the pin type

[Juttie205 123 2 Cars]

can i not use the clutch arm from a be3 in a be1?

[welshpug 1,661]

Depends on the gearbox casing, most late be1 boxes can be converted from ball pivot to cross shaft.

 

the earlier 1.9 mi16 boxes were exactly that, theres quite a bit of confusion from the way people have habitually identified certain parts and changes being attributed slightly incorrectly, i.e as I mentioned the clevis pin pedal change to hook type was not specific to the introduction of the be3 box, its a 1990 change which was applicable to the ma box as well.

 

hence there are some 89 be3 cars with a clevis pin pedal & cable.

 

in a 205 the change from be1 to be3 did also happen at the same time as the change from ball pivot to cross shaft release, some say the later type gives a nicer feel but personally I dont think theres much difference if you compare like for like, i.e new bushes cable and pressure plate.

[Juttie205 123 2 Cars]

Here are a couple of pics of box removed from my car.

 

 

I don't have a be1 to compare yet as picking a couple of them up end of feb so at worse may need a different clutch pedal if anyone has one spare.

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

that's either a late Mi16 box or a TD/HDI BE3 box, has had the early clutch arm fitted as the 306/405 clutch's of that period where Pull