Pugly 1 Posted December 31, 2014 (edited) I've been tasked by my uncle to find some of the OEM Sump Sealant used on 205 GTI's - apparently it is Peugeot branded and comes in a gold tube and is very effective at stopping sump leaks - anyone have any idea where to buy some? I tried our local Peugeot dealer and they weren't sure what I meant (Nor am I to be quite honest - I would have thought regular RTV was fine!) Edited December 31, 2014 by Pugly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kane 34 Posted December 31, 2014 I've had sump sealing issues in the past but found RTV sealant to work well. Key is to get all the mating surfaces squeaky clean. Can be a bit of a nightmare of a job with the engine in the car as it can take a while for all of the oil to drain out from the block. I removed the sump after emptying the motor of oil and let it sit for a good day or two to allow all the excess to drain. Then using degreaser I cleaned back the inner walls of the block and the sump. Popped it all together and haven't had any issues since. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,666 Posted December 31, 2014 loctite 5910 iirc, for the alloy to alloy joints, gasket for steel sumps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Fenton 1,548 Posted December 31, 2014 STAG Wellseal, job done! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daviewonder 533 3 Cars Posted December 31, 2014 STAG Wellseal, job done! Store it standing up with the lid facing upwards though. I've had a couple of lids split over the years and I can't even begin to describe the mess it makes when a tube empties itself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petert 601 Posted January 1, 2015 ThreeBond 1211. You (or someone else) will appreciate it even more next time you do a rebuild. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miles 331 1 Cars Posted January 1, 2015 As WP has said, Alloy joins I always use Wurth RTV, Tin sump to alloy Payen or Pug gasket only, Don;t do what allot of garages do and use sealant on the gasket as it defeats the object of a gasket, the gaskets do need some bedding in time before oil, I find 3 times to nip them up over a few days works well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrfirepro 127 1 Cars Posted January 1, 2015 I followed Miles advice on my leaky sump and it's been fine ever since...nice one Miles 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miles 331 1 Cars Posted January 1, 2015 Thanks , the better quality sump gaskets eat into the mating surfaces ensuring a good seal, any sealant will stop this happening Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S@m 156 Posted January 2, 2015 In response to your original question, the mechanics i work with (@Citroen) do remember this elusive gold sealant and speak of it highly - it seems to no longer be available though. It has now been replaced, in this garage at least, with Loctite 5699 which is grey but on our parts system still appears as "Gold Sealant". I've never used either on a sump so cannot comment on their effectiveness but i thought i'd address your original question. When i did my sump, i used Loctite 5910 as Welshpug suggests above, it seemed to do the job but then i had the luxury of the engine being upside down on a stand with no oil in sight - the same job in the car is a nightmare! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barneys66 124 1 Cars Posted December 10, 2015 Sorry to dig up an old thread, but I've been hunting for advice on the correct use of RTV when rebuilding my 1.9. - Does the 'no RTV with gaskets' apply to all gaskets, or just the sump/head..? I have the full Payen kit and a can of Wurth as recommended here. - I have a baffled sump which is a plate sandwiched between the block and the sump - should I use the gasket between the plate and the block, or the plate and the sump, with RTV filling the other gap, or buy a second sump gasket and do both..? Any help would be much appreciated - it's nearly time to start screwing it back together and I want to do it right..! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Fenton 1,548 Posted December 10, 2015 I don't think you will get a definitive answer on the sump, especially when there is the baffle plate sandwiched up, everyone has their own idea on the subject! Is it a steel sump or alloy? But whatever you decide, get it spotlessly clean and de grease with brake cleaner or similar, and if you do use a gasket, retighten as Miles describes at least a couple of times as the gasket compresses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barneys66 124 1 Cars Posted December 10, 2015 Thanks Tom - it's a stock steel sump. Will do on the cleanliness. How about the rest of the engine gaskets; I've read lots of conflicting info..!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Fenton 1,548 Posted December 10, 2015 Again nearly everyone will have their own method. I personally use sealant AND a gasket but others will say just sealant or just gasket etc. Even I will use either Wurth RTV or Wellseal and to be honest I can't give you a hard and fast rule. It's pretty much down to how I am feeling that day! All I do know is get it spotless and degrease and tighten the bolts properly and you don't usually have any problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joshsnoad 2 Posted December 10, 2015 I work for Mercedes and the stuff we use is great, never had a leak from it. Its like RTV but bit thicker and really sticky. Its about £30 a tube mind but if it means only doing the job once, would be worth it. If you called your local Merc part dealer and asked for the sealer used on their sump pans they would know the stuff. Just a thought Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barneys66 124 1 Cars Posted December 12, 2015 Thanks guys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
