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lagonda

Rubber Petrol Pipes From Pump/tank

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lagonda

Got forced off the road by an idiot on an S bend, ending up with my CTi nearly on its side half in a roadside ditch. Fortunately I hadn't been going that fast myself, so not too much damage to the car. That was in May, and I'm still waiting to hear from my insurers re the repair.

 

Anyway, I've thought it was using petrol more than usual, and begun to notice smell of petrol. Before driving off the other day, I looked underneath and saw petrol dripping. Jacked it up, got underneath, and it was one of the hoses, needless to say the outlet, no the return, coming down from the pump in the tank. Apart from the odd bit of grass in the pipe clips, there's no real damage in that area underneath, yet the hose was leaking at the side of where it curves to meet the steel pipe running along the underside of the floor plan.

 

The interesting thing is, there's no obvious tear or rip in the hose, but the hose is starting to perish, and I think the jarring it received has simply prompted it to give way.

 

The hose is dated 1989, so I shall replace both...a metre of the correct "carburant" hose was only €6.56, so a job worth doing. The stainless hose clips are literally clips, with care you can just spring them open. To close them, a pair of narrow pincers is the perfect tool!

 

Anyway.....our cars are getting older, so worth checking these hoses, they're cheap and easy enough to replace!

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Tom Fenton

Just to add, you can actually buy the proper pliers for these clips quite cheaply, like these

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sealey-Car-Van-Fuel-Coolant-Hose-Clip-Clamp-Collar-Pliers-Clic-Clic-R-VS1664-/370981526477?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item566038dbcd#ht_1695wt_952

 

I have got a pair and they allow you to do a very neat job by putting the original clips back.

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2052006

Do most people just use 8mm ID hose for this? Because I think I'm right in saying, the OE hose has a slightly larger ID at the pump end. Not sure if this is important, but would like to know, as I was planning on refitting my tank tomorrow and have reused the OE hoses!

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lagonda

Tom

The pincers work a treat, as if made for the job.

 

2052006

Sorry for delay replying. Bought my replacement hose from a general motor factor (autodistribution) over here in Parthenay. The hose they've supplied (I think he disappeared too quickly to hear me say what car it was for) to match the small section I'd cut off, is 8mm. Went to fit it yesterday, and it goes on fine, but the clip, once sprung in place, is a bit loose, you can turn it. Now I've removed the old hose, I see that is marked " 7 x 3"....so it's 7mm; no indication it's 7mm one end and 8mm the other (which I think would be unlikely).

 

As an aside, I left the old hose in situ deliberately to aid pulling the new length through...typical 205GTi, access is difficult and the hose is a tight fit, also having to bend over the top of the tank whilst avoiding pump and gauge sender wiring. To do this, I forced some tight fitting metal rod into the end of the old hose and one end of the new hose, and pulled it through. The routing is difficult enough to cause the assembly to part company, but it did leave enough of the new hose within reach to successfully pull it through. The piece of metal rod (tube obviously would work also) needs to be fairly short, around 2", as of course, it needs to bend around the access available.

 

The old hose is noticeably harder at the lower end where it's perished.

 

To keep the car mobile, I've raided a stack of varied 205 bits I bought off a guy over here, which have proved very useful! This included a base model coolant tank with the hose still attached....hose proved to be a perfect fit....a few inches too long, but better than too short! Obviously not a permanent repair as it's not intended for petrol...but no problem so far.

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chipstick

It's 7mm hose.

 

Very tight going on the pump end. I used a jug of hot water and strong words of encouragement.

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dcc

I had 7.6mm hose last time I did them - was very tight as above.

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