Gti6 Conversion Power Steering Removal

[AdamF 19 1 Cars]

Hey,

 

Running a GTI6 engine without power steering, am i right in saying I need a specific tensioner and belt?

 

If so, does anyone have the details?

 

Thanks

 

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[allanallen 528 2 Cars]

You don't need a tensioner pulley at all if you make an adjuster for the alternator.

 

Look halfway down this page

http://forum.205gtidrivers.com/index.php?showtopic=106325&page=3

[Anthony 1,003]

6PK700 belt and a cambelt tensioner does the trick, like so:

 

[chipstick 382 1 Cars]

You don't need a tensioner pulley at all if you make an adjuster for the alternator.

 

Look halfway down this page

http://forum.205gtidrivers.com/index.php?showtopic=106325&page=3

 

Looks good. Do you supply those?

[cheesegrater 43 1 Cars]

I use a TU 8v cambelt tensioner and post with mine.

[dcc 855]

I have a full set up including alternator, rose jointed linkage, engine mounts and belt for sale. all was new around 2009, and has done less than 15k in total.

 

should have said - put up a wanted add if you're interested.

Edited June 25, 2014 by dcc

[AdamF 19 1 Cars]

I don't think I was clear, apologies.

 

My Gti6 has still got a power steering pump on it but I dont want to run power steering.

 

What do I need to do?

 

Thanks

 

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[welshpug 1,657]

You have your answers

[Tom Fenton 1,541]

I don't think I was clear, apologies.

 

My Gti6 has still got a power steering pump on it but I dont want to run power steering.

 

What do I need to do?

 

Thanks

 

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If that is what you want then fair enough, but honestly it's a backwards step in my opinion.

[jackherer 543]

I agree, keep the PAS and fit a Xsara VTS rack for the perfect setup IMO.

[allanallen 528 2 Cars]

 

Looks good. Do you supply those?

I made a few sets up a while back but they've all gone.

I could look at making some up if there was enough interest

[AdamF 19 1 Cars]

Really? You all recommend power steering? Im quite surprised...

 

Thanks

 

Adam

[chipstick 382 1 Cars]

I made a few sets up a while back but they've all gone.

I could look at making some up if there was enough interest

I was going to use a turnbuckle but not sure if I'd have enough room between the engine and rad.

 

A dedicated FS/GB thread to gauge interest for a production run would be appreciated

[jackherer 543]

Really? You all recommend power steering? Im quite surprised...

205 PAS isn't ultralight like PAS on a new car, it retains the same feel.

[AdamF 19 1 Cars]

205 PAS isn't ultralight like PAS on a new car, it retains the same feel.

I see, I guess I'll need all the reservoir and bits adding as well if I wanted it?

[Tom Fenton 1,541]

The big difference is the increased ratio steering. The manual racks are awful as they are something like 3.9 turns lock to lock. The power racks can be used with the power disconnected but they become quite heavy like that. The power rack with the power working is the best option for me.

[dobboy 231 2 Cars]

I concur about the 3.9 manual rack..... you need to be like Charles Atlas to go round a mini roundabout, even with a 8V in it.

 

It feels even heavier in the small bursts i've had in mine with the 16V.

 

I'm kicking myself for not putting in a quicker rack with PAS during my conversion.

 

If you're worried about weight go on a diet!

 

The local rally car guy say's i should fit a quicker rack with some sort of electric assistance from a Corsa, with a manual controlled variable resistor/knob on the dash that controls the feel/weight (at low speeds), which i'll look into in the winter.

[welshpug 1,657]

I'm not the biggest guy in the world (ask DCC ) but I find the 2.4 turn rack fine on road tyres and 309 wishbones with an AP diff, I guess it would be nicer with PAS, but once the car is rolling I've not found a pressing need for it.

 

Maybe if I ran stickier tyres and a plate diff and threw it around a bit more I might.

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

PAS is a must with PAS rack's, the weight difference is bugger all and on a road car not worth worrying about, all the 306 parts are a direct fit so it's dead easy too

[Slo 283 1 Cars]

+1 on the pas from me. I dunno how anyone can drive a 205 with manual steering, going round a big roundabout isn't too bad but as pointed out mini roundabouts are fun and 3 point turns are a huge battle, im surprised the UJ can withstand years & years of so much sideways pressure.

[Roon 29 1 Cars]

As miles keeps telling me I need a pas rack and after giving it hell around the ring yes I need a shorter rack lol.

 

I'll be going for the swap very soon I think seeming as this many people give it a thumbs up.