205 Turbo Vs Gti6

[Slo 283 1 Cars]

Me too it took 3 of us to wrench it in to my engine bay

[pugdamo 111 2 Cars]

Oh my god my engine is 6kgs heavier,thats loads,im going to rip my turbo out and fit a GTI6 now then.As slo said not much in it.

How ever you look at this both are SIMILAR weight and similar power,you will never get a definitive answer on this,i like both but i picked the turbo to be a little different and havent regretted it despite all the suggested down sides,the extra weight isnt really that noticable but you will have the same impact on handling if you fitted a GTI6 lump so really its totally up to you.

[Reebmit 51 4 Cars]

Ha ha yeah, I lifted a 1900 8 valve into my boot the other day without too much hassle on my own, tried moving 2.0 a few yards and found it near impossible. I think if it was me and I had to choose between these two engines I would definitely choose the GTi-6 on bodies or carbs ( I know Welshpug I said carbs he he...)

Edited December 22, 2013 by Reebmit

[Slo 283 1 Cars]

http://forum.205gtidrivers.com/index.php?showtopic=52614&p=1228429

 

 

6 is lighter.

6 kg so not by much, surprised that the turbo weighs 1 kg less than the diesel, and the v6 @ 215 kg ooer

[welshpug 1,666]

That's just the engine, not counting the intercooler etc.

 

 

Don't forget Intercoolers and all that crap cost quite a bit.

[pugdamo 111 2 Cars]

That's just the engine, not counting the intercooler etc.

 

 

Don't forget Intercoolers and all that crap cost quite a bit.

May cost a bit but still dont weight that much

[welshpug 1,666]

all adds up! 5-6 kilos here, few hundred g there, knocking a few BHP off your BHP/TON each g you add.

[Reebmit 51 4 Cars]

I agree Mei, I think a nice simple tubular manifold on a GTi-6 v the turbo manifold/turbo on the 2.0 is probably quite a significant difference...

[pugdamo 111 2 Cars]

I get that but iv not seen any difference in performance between the 2 engines,surely that comes down to the extra torque you get with the turbo engine,everyone gets hung up on BHP but torque is also a big player in that,im not sure what the torque is on the gti6 but im sure you will enlighten me.

[tommy gun 6]

surely though its easyer and cheaper to get more bhp and tourqe from a turbo engine.

my last gti6 had bodies cams and omex managment making 216bhp but cost me best part of £2000,

ive seen posts of 200 bhp just from turning the boost up.

[Reebmit 51 4 Cars]

Agreed Damian, its amazing how many races are won on an engine with good torque and in the real world of road driving even more so. I have chatted with Miles on this for a while now and we still feel the ally 1900 8v with turbo conversion is hard to beat all round....

[pugdamo 111 2 Cars]

I agree with turbo charging the standard engine,Tom fentons is a very good example,1.6 and kicks out more power than mine,but the draw back for me was cost,if parts were easy to come by i would have done that.

[pugdamo 111 2 Cars]

surely though its easyer and cheaper to get more bhp and tourqe from a turbo engine.

my last gti6 had bodies cams and omex managment making 216bhp but cost me best part of £2000,

ive seen posts of 200 bhp just from turning the boost up.

I do kind of agree with this,can get more power very easily out turbo engines but im always a little worried on how far you can push them before they go bang,just turning the boost up on its own isnt really for me,although i know a lot of people do it.

[Reebmit 51 4 Cars]

Its quite a pig of a conversion, pipes, wiring etc... whereas the GTi-6 is quite neat. The turbo does not seem to tune easily past 200-210 hp with out spending money, people on here seem to have got 240 ish but quite a bit of work. I didn't like mine (weight/performance) hence why I'm going to 1900 turbo.

[welshpug 1,666]

 

GTi6 track car vs 1.9 8vT CTI.

[Reebmit 51 4 Cars]

Thanks mei, enjoyed that! very evenly matched..... be interesting to see spec for each

[tommy gun 6]

if thats the lighter 1.9 turbo the gti6 would have the edge over the 2.0 turbo then in power to weight.

[Reebmit 51 4 Cars]

Probably but depends on what spec the cars were... going back to your original question, I think also you have to take into account that if the 2.0 turbo had a good turbo/manifold from standard then it would be easier to tune cheaply but its not great and the first mod I would do is bin the manifold/turbo and fit a T25 or 28 and then start modifying. But then that costs....

Edited December 22, 2013 by Reebmit

[pugdamo 111 2 Cars]

if thats the lighter 1.9 turbo the gti6 would have the edge over the 2.0 turbo then in power to weight.

That was a stripped out GTI 6 against henry yorkes CTI which is 60kgs heavier than a GTI and also is not stripped out,think that was quite poor for the GTI6 tbh,

[Slo 283 1 Cars]

How come you cant hear the dump valve? Is it piped into the inlet?

[welshpug 1,666]

Its running a standard valve iirc, not a silly whoosh thing.

[Slo 283 1 Cars]

That was a stripped out GTI 6 against henry yorkes CTI which is 60kgs heavier than a GTI and also is not stripped out,think that was quite poor for the GTI6 tbh,

 

I bet the cti electric roof weighs more than the roof of a tin top including its glass and the missing half of the tailgate.

 

Its running a standard valve iirc, not a silly whoosh thing.

 

Ahh so its plumbed into the air filter* as original

 

The standard valve is a silly whoosh thing too you just dont hear it if its plumbed into the air filter how it should be.

Edited December 22, 2013 by Slo