Right Clutch For 205 Gti 6 Conversion?

[jameswallace. 8]

just looking for some confirmation on the clutch i want to buy for the conversion

 

is this the right one?

 

http://www.eurocarparts.com/search/641545060/p/Car-Parts

 

is there a better more recommended one?

[welshpug 1,657]

bx 16v, 215mm push type clutch, the one above is the 8 valve kit at 200mm.

 

641545400 is the ecp/cp4L part number.

 

118 on ECP, or £75 on cp4L

 

http://www.carparts4less.co.uk/search/641545400/p/home

 

 

have a look on ebay, DCC and myself have in the past year or so got o.e peugeot kits for £55.

Edited August 6, 2013 by welshpug

[jameswallace. 8]

Just went to fit this today and realised I tossed the old bolts for the clutch assuming the new clutch would come with new bolts! Anyone got any or know where I can get some which are the right length??

[welshpug 1,657]

Peugeot, or citroen.

[Alastairh 47]

If you want a Bx 16v clutch, i have fitted the following without issue. ebay; 300906484105

 

Nice and cheap

[Daryl1205 2 1 Cars]

Depends what gearbox you use iv got an mi16 clutch so I can use the 205 box think its push type can't remember

[pug_ham 244 3 Cars]

Just went to fit this today and realised I tossed the old bolts for the clutch assuming the new clutch would come with new bolts! Anyone got any or know where I can get some which are the right length??

What thread has your flywheel got?

 

The 8v flywheel has M8 bolts where the Mi16 had M7 so you need to get the right ones.

 

Looking on service box for the GTI-6 flywheel you need M7 x1 21mm long.

 

g

[jameswallace. 8]

the clutch welsh pug has linked me to will allow me to fit a 1.6 gear box right?

[welshpug 1,657]

it can be a 1.6 1.9 2.0 2.1 whatever, as long as its a BE1/3/4 box with the right bellhousing bolt pattern and you have the appropriate flywheel.

[jameswallace. 8]

perfect thanks thats all i need to know!

[Rams_gti6 12 1 Cars]

If you want a Bx 16v clutch, i have fitted the following without issue. ebay; 300906484105

Nice and cheap

Do these clutches fit a gti6 205? Do you normally need pressure plate and friction plate off two different models or can the clutch be bought it full kit form but just under another model i.e bx 16v? Edited November 21, 2013 by Rams_gti6

[welshpug 1,657]

all of the above applies, no mixing and matching, its the same flywheel.

[Rams_gti6 12 1 Cars]

That £25 clutch fits? Bargain or cheap for a reason? Welshpug informative as usual! Thanks

[Slo 283 1 Cars]

Ive got a £25 clutch in my 2 litre turbo engine works fine, its £25 because its probably reconditioned despite it saying its brand new and will have cheap lining material.

[Alastairh 47]

Valeo, listed under a 405 etc, but if you google the part number the technical specs it fits. As said my last 205 GTI6 conversion i did had one.

 

Al

[Rams_gti6 12 1 Cars]

The spec is, 215mm 18splines? What else should I check?

[Slo 283 1 Cars]

nothing else to check but the thrush/release bearing might not fit your release arm so better to source a new one seperately.

[Rams_gti6 12 1 Cars]

I've just put a new one in when I changed the box as I thought my synchros were worn. Didn't replace clutch to save money then as I thought I had to buy a mi16 friction plate and a gti6 pressure plate which meant buying toe clutch kits which was £150 ish, but saying that we checked the plate and it looked fine loads of meat left on it. Think it's my pressure plate that's at fault though many not clutching (made up word) properly. Tried changing cable but no such luck

[welshpug 1,657]

nothing else to check but the thrush/release bearing might not fit your release arm so better to source a new one seperately.

 

it will fit fine, there's only one type of BE3 release bearing.

 

I've just put a new one in when I changed the box as I thought my synchros were worn. Didn't replace clutch to save money then as I thought I had to buy a mi16 friction plate and a gti6 pressure plate which meant buying toe clutch kits which was £150 ish, but saying that we checked the plate and it looked fine loads of meat left on it. Think it's my pressure plate that's at fault though many not clutching (made up word) properly. Tried changing cable but no such luck

 

you do know that the pull and push type 215mm clutches use a nigh on identical friction plate right?...

[Rams_gti6 12 1 Cars]

I do now after doing a bit of reading earlier, at the time I thought I needed a mi16 specific one!

[Slo 283 1 Cars]

it will fit fine, there's only one type of BE3 release bearing.

 

 

Ahh thats why then. i got a bx 1.9 gti clutch kit, when i took my box off the release bearing looked nothing like the one in the kit. it had a fat round dome on the front on the front of it and since its nice and quiet just put it back in again

[welshpug 1,657]

yeah, there's a few variances, some will have a square shoulder, some a dome, but they're all the same height and same fork fitting.

[Slo 283 1 Cars]

not when you have a be1 tho what confused me the most with it all was the spare box that i'd bought came with a bearing still on the relase arm and while the front looked identical to the new one in the kit the backside was pretty obviously different due to the be1/3 difference

[welshpug 1,657]

ha! indeed

 

as it happens I'm running the original 205 BE1 arm and bearing over a 215mm push clutch and flywheel on my 8 valve engine.

[dobboy 231 2 Cars]

Could someone who knows what they are looking at have a squint at what i've got please?

 

I bought a 6 engine c/w a gearbox for a conversion. I was told engine + box were previously in a 205.

 

I also assume/hope that the Gbox is a BE1 or 3 from a 1.9. (and i'm hoping not to require to buy a new clutch)

 

A few Q's.

 

Q1. Does it look like i have an MI16 or GTI6 clutch or other?

 

Q2. From the clutch fitting guide on here it mentions a bearing to go on the splined shaft for the fork on the box? am i missing it?

 

Q3. How can a novice tell if it's BE1 or BE3?

 

Q4. What's the easiest way of confirming this is a 1.9 box

 

Generally, can anyone advise what i have here or how i can find out?

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks in advance