Mi16 Mpg

[samthornton1990 23]

Hi all,

 

haven't been on here in while but I am yet again considering a 205 for a daily, I've got it down to a 205 and a 306 d turbo.

 

Just interested to know what the mpg of an mi16 converted 205 is? Does running a diesel box help improve?

 

Or would I be better putting a 1600 16v in one as I know they can acheive 40mpg on a good run.

Basically I am going to France for summer (fingers crossed) and the Passats going so I want something small and fun when I come back but I want vaguely good mpg. If an MI16 205 could average on 40mpg I would be swayed.

 

[welshpug 1,657]

I know an 8 valver will, and a bodied gti6 will.

 

1.9 and xsara boxes respectively, I doubt you will with a 1600 box unless you do the trip at 50 mph!

[samthornton1990 23]

Yeah that's what I've been thinking. Just looking into it more and more now. Old french cars are addictive!

[Simes 248 2 Cars]

2700 miles across France last summer in a 205 mi16 on throttle bodies.

Approximately 500 litres of fuel.

 

Best 34mpg -

worse....well throttle bodies sound nice (addictive) don't they!

 

When it was a standard engine, standard inlet but just cams I got 37mpg at a constant 130kmh.

[BlueBolt 156]

I know an 8 valver will, and a bodied gti6 will.

 

Really???

Something is amiss with my lump then!!!

I'm lucky to be getting half of that with my bodied '6 lump and Xsara box!!

[welshpug 1,657]

Really???

Something is amiss with my lump then!!!

I'm lucky to be getting half of that with my bodied '6 lump and Xsara box!!

 

yes, its connected to your right foot.

 

[samthornton1990 23]

I managed 32mpg tops with my 8valve on a 1600 box, would a 1900 with a 1900 box achieve 40mpg?

[BlueBolt 156]

 

yes, its connected to your right foot.

 

You're on about the noise pedal pusher aren't you???

As previously mentioned, throttle body noise is soooo addictive!!! (Wanting to go and warm car up just to go for a blast again now!! Good thing ie had a drink now and can't probably!!)

 

But seriously, even when I'm having a "drive it like a granny" week or two, she doesn't allow me that kind of mileage. She also gets very choked up and hates me!!

Did a trip to NEC and back the other week and the motorway journey was painful due to the Xsara 'box and the high revs at 60/70 all the way. Think I may have seen just over 30mpg on that trip??

 

(Sorry, didn't mean to hijack the thread)

 

I managed 32mpg tops with my 8valve on a 1600 box, would a 1900 with a 1900 box achieve 40mpg?

My 1900 lump with standard 'box was giving me 35-40 mpg on a good average run week!!

Edited February 21, 2013 by BlueBolt

[Simes 248 2 Cars]

I managed 32mpg tops with my 8valve on a 1600 box, would a 1900 with a 1900 box achieve 40mpg?

 

no, an mi16 0n motronic will be better.

[welshpug 1,657]

I managed 32mpg tops with my 8valve on a 1600 box, would a 1900 with a 1900 box achieve 40mpg?

 

yes, mine can do and it runs MP3.1 and a mild cam, Anthony's similarly setup 1.9 on Jetronic will also do this as its had the time spent making sure it runs right.

 

DCC's old gti6 was very good on bodies, helped massively by a Sandy brown map, he's very very good at doing these engines and I'm always hearing about customers that report better fuel usage and laptimes when they move to his engines.

[Ryan 99]

On a steady run at 60-70mph I can get high-30s in mine (standard mi16 with 2-row management and mi16 box)

Edited February 21, 2013 by Ryan

[samthornton1990 23]

Monotronic? Is that like single point injection? How do you find these things out when looking over a car?

[welshpug 1,657]

MOtronic, not MONOtronic.

 

i.e the standard 405 mi16 injection system in Ryan and Simon's cases, or a ZX 1.9 8v volcane in my case.

[samthornton1990 23]

I could live with that.

 

What are the 1600s like on juice?

[GLPoomobile 958]

If an MI16 205 could average on 40mpg I would be swayed.

 

 

To average 40mpg you'll need to be exceeding 40mpg for a lot of the time. What sort of journeys do you do?

[samthornton1990 23]

I do 25 mile trips weekely and if I go riding even further...Kind of used to diesels thats why i am finding it hard to think about running a petrol

[petert 586]

I get 41mpg at a constant 100-105 km/h. That's with 4:43 cwp and Mi16x4 5th gear.

[allye 530 3 Cars]

You're looking to buy correct? I used to get over 40mpg out of the 6' easily, on a long journey had 43-44

[samthornton1990 23]

Will be in a few months. Just weighing up my options... i dont exactly drive the passat sensibly and still return 40 ish to the gallon even when giving it the beans

[Simes 248 2 Cars]

A 205 will not return the mpg you're after.

The official road test figures are

 

1.6 29.9mpg

1.9 28.1mpg

 

These are the combined road test figures from Autocar and Motor in 1986 and 87 respectively.

 

With a car like this you shouldn't be considering mpg, that's what your other car is for!

[dcc 855]

I regularly got 300-350 miles to a tank, I drove it like I wanted, everywhere, but I do remember getting 220 to a tank once - bloody noise pedal... I remember Anthony saying he could hear me from 5-6 miles away. he could pinpoint me when I got to the trafficlights by his house. I miss those noise makers.

[samthornton1990 23]

I know i shouldnt be considering it but i am at that age where I can afford one. 106s also tempt me, little rallys do ok on juice from what I have heard... ill do some.more reading. Cheers guys

[Alan_M 66 1 Cars]

Pretty sure my Mi managed 32-34mpg on my commute, and that's with a mildly cammed/Motronic/1.6 box & 'normal' driving. Vaguely remember getting to the 'Ring on about a tank and half with 80-90mph driving too. Not bad considering the performance that you get, just don't ask about the MPG (or Laps per tank) at the 'Ring......it's pants.

[samthornton1990 23]

HAha I miss the car it was the most fun thing ive ever driven. I would struggle to run one i think if they did as bad as my last oe did. Hence why i am asking this. Realistically a d turbo offers everything but i miss having a petrol

[24seven 104]

I was happily getting 40+ mpg out of my 205 Mi16 with a 1.6 gearbox. It was stripped out inside so weighed about as much as half a fart, but (like everyone else) I wasn't shy of putting my foot down in it form time to time just to hear the noise. Historically I have always been good at getting mileage out of things like fuel/tyres/brake pads and so on on my cars mind. Silky smooth driving.