205/saxo Vts Wiring Advise Wanted

[jamie_1992 66 1 Cars]

ok then im planning on changing the engine in the xs as the gti6 is now close to on the road

i have a saxo vts with a sweet engine in, i am more than confidant about putting the engine in and what needs doing all that worrys me is the wiring

will it be the same as my gti6 conversion where the multiplugs need changing or is it a little more in depth

will the clocks need changing for gti clocks

 

 

p.s. a guide will be made when doing this conversion for all others to follow

 

 

also undecided to go vts or d turbo so someone convince me what to do

Edited February 20, 2013 by jamie_1992

[welshpug 1,661]

I'd keep the VTS whole tbh!

 

Regarding getting it running, yes in essence exactly the same as going a gti6 conversion, its the same ecu series as it happens, but only runs wasted spark not full sequential.

 

Find the appropriate wires in the multiplugs and connect them to the corresponding ones in the 205 engine loom, same as doing say an Mi16 or a V6 conversion.

 

They all need a switched live, permanent live, a starter motor switched live, and a fuel pump wire, earth is typically self contained in the loom, just connect it to the transmission.

[jamie_1992 66 1 Cars]

ok then will it be ok using the xs clocks and wiring or will it need to be from a gti

[welshpug 1,661]

can't see why you would need to change the instrument cluster, its nigh on identical to the gti one.

 

have a wiring diagram (click the link for a larger one)

 

 

 

[marksorrento205 80]

Xs clocks are fine

[Tandoh 17]

The wiring is very easy actually just identify the wires Welshpug mentioned on both the 106 and the 205. I ve got a 106 main engine loom connector (interior side) with the required wires identifed if that helps

[dartman 4 1 Cars]

just done this conversion, although car is on track so not to road standard, but clocks are fine, are you changing gearbox aswell? the vts is different from the 106 loom as i found out, but i did mine with the vts loom, have a search on my content ive covered most of the wiring on that still have a handy wire diagram of the multiplug aswell.

[jamie_1992 66 1 Cars]

yer il be changing the box for a close ratio but yet to decide

il have a browse through

[dartman 4 1 Cars]

http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/190705_10151408490081803_937190009_n.jpg

 

thats for inspiration

[jamie_1992 66 1 Cars]

what gearbox have you used

[Zacky-94 7 2 Cars]

Relay Box Connector:

#14 Ignition Live

#2 Battery +

#8 Battery +

#11 Battery +

#15 Battery + (Most of these will be on separate wires leading up to the engine bay fuse box)

#13 Fuel Pump Feed

 

There the conector numbers for a 106 cant be much diffrence

 

205 gearbox has a diffrent speedo drive to the vts/106 remeber , easyer keeping the 205 box , apart from that from what ive read its a straight forward conversion good luck

[jamie_1992 66 1 Cars]

thanks im hoping to use a 106 s1 rally box but they do seem to be rather rare

[Zacky-94 7 2 Cars]

The 205 xs box has pritty close ratios too if i rember rightly dont quote me on it tho lol

[Zacky-94 7 2 Cars]

Theres a s1 rallye box on ebay at the mo , 2nd gear syncro needs replacing tho if you can rebuild boxes

[jamie_1992 66 1 Cars]

Theres a s1 rallye box on ebay at the mo , 2nd gear syncro needs replacing tho if you can rebuild boxes

im current bidder lol

 

yes it is a close ratio box but i dont think it can be used on a vts engine

Edited February 21, 2013 by jamie_1992

[welshpug 1,661]

Of course it can.

[dartman 4 1 Cars]

i wanted long ratios as race on oval so i used a 1.1 saxo gearbox, does around 70 in 2nd gear lol. yer the speedo drive is different but the units are interchangeable.

 

[dartman 4 1 Cars]

also the loom and wire numbers mentioned above will be slighty different as 106 loom, best double check anyway with a multi meter on buzz setting. dont forget you need to fabricate an exhaust and shave your top mount! any problems give me a pm.

[jamie_1992 66 1 Cars]

Of course it can.

oh really i was told you cant as the bellhousing is different

i wonder if it would put up with the extra power of a vts engine

[Zacky-94 7 2 Cars]

Using the standard box off the vts/106 the shafts dont sit in the diff corectly due to the thickness of the pin and the shafts need slight adjustment or making good pair out of the 2 , i read this on one of the build threads on here

thats why i said be easyer using the xs box if the bell housing matches up witch it should if its a later car , im no pug genius tho!

i'll try and find the threads for you

[Zacky-94 7 2 Cars]

http://forum.205gtidrivers.com/index.php?showtopic=96541&hl=

 

This is jackmans good read not much on wiring tho only one i can find

[Tandoh 17]

I've been told that the xs bellhousing is different to 106/Saxo ones. I could be incorrect as I never tried to use one.

I'm using a 106 box and I have no problems with the standard 205 driveshafts at all.

[Zacky-94 7 2 Cars]

The infomation is all from this forum , would need to ask someone with more knowlege than my self as i havmt done this personaly just trying to help out

[MiniGibbo 142]

106 engine in mine with 106 gearbox and its fine.

 

Had a 205 xs box and it did look different to my 106 box.

Edited February 25, 2013 by MiniGibbo