Gti 6 Wont Start After Being Stood

[Paul_13 212 1 Cars]

Did you read what I put about Ryanstdt's car in an earlier post?

 

The double relay controls the pump and ECU separately, the fuel pump may be working nicely but the ECU may not be.

[Karl 15 1 Cars]

Is it a tooth out?

what do you mean is it a tooth out??

[Karl 15 1 Cars]

Did you read what I put about Ryanstdt's car in an earlier post?

 

The double relay controls the pump and ECU separately, the fuel pump may be working nicely but the ECU may not be.

no i didnt but i will get a doublerelay sorted are all peugeot 306's the same in regards to the relay ??

[Karl 15 1 Cars]

right i have a new double relay and a crank sensor on order if anyone has any other suggestions as to what this could be im open too try anything

[ORB 227 1 Cars]

Tooth out - are timing pins locating? (Has it slipped a tooth on the belt?)

[pug_ham 244 3 Cars]

no i didnt but i will get a doublerelay sorted are all peugeot 306's the same in regards to the relay ??

 

No, the hdi relay is different for certain but I'm not sure about every petrol model using the same relay as the GTI-6.

 

Check service box.

 

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[Karl 15 1 Cars]

Tooth out - are timing pins locating? (Has it slipped a tooth on the belt?)

i will have a look tommorrow in the light i did wonder if the timing had come out but it shouldnt have it was running fine before the g/box change. i will look anyway to cancel it out

[Karl 15 1 Cars]

 

No, the hdi relay is different for certain but I'm not sure about every petrol model using the same relay as the GTI-6.

 

Check service box.

 

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thanks graham i have sourced a tested gti6 one for £7 delivered so all will be reveiled shortly

[thug pug 7 1 Cars]

Back in the day when I use to PDI GTI 6,s they were a pain in the arse for fowling the plugs if left in the compond or short stop/start journeys and no mater if you cleaned the plugs with a wire brush or heated with a torch to burn off excess fuel the only way to get them to run right was a set of new plugs. Worth a try.

 

Rab E.

[Karl 15 1 Cars]

ill get a set of new plugs aswell then might aswell for the sake of a tenner cheers rab

[Karl 15 1 Cars]

anyone else have any suggestions to what this might be?? still waiting on plugs, crank sensor and double relay other than these 3 is there anything else that it could be

[welshpug 1,657]

dead fuel pump.

 

no fuel.

 

bad earth.

 

bad +ve connection.

 

bad/no switched +ve connection.

[Karl 15 1 Cars]

right update guys, double relay and crank sensor came today................fitted - still no joy any more ideas? thanks

[chipstick 382 1 Cars]

Spend some time around the gearbox area where you disturbed things recently.

 

Remove all the earths and give them a clean up if you haven't already.

[Karl 15 1 Cars]

i have checked everything there are no loose earths they are all very clean, new crank sensor,new double relay live feed is fine i have absoutley no idea what this could be and tbh its starting to get me down a bit, stupid thing

[Tesstuff 222]

Down and unhappy <------ Karl -----> give it to someone who knows what they are doing -----> pay some money over ----> car completed -----> Happy <---- Forum troubleshooters

Edited December 28, 2012 by Tesstuff

[Karl 15 1 Cars]

Down and unhappy <------ Karl -----> give it to someone who knows what they are doing -----> pay some money over ----> car completed -----> Happy <---- Forum troubleshooters

i dont mind paying money for it to be sorted, ive payed stupid amounts of money to repair it myself anyway, but if i can diagnose it with help from you guys, (who do know what there doing) at only the cost of time it can potentially save me alot of money. dont you think i would like to be able to go to a garage and say "my car wont start, fix it please" and then pay stupid prices on labour for it to be repaired?? if i had that sort of money i would, but tbh i dont, especially this time of year!!

 

i can appreciate i dont know alot about these cars and have in the past asked what most people on here would consider 'stupid' questions, but the quality of the conversion was very poor and thus isnt helping my cause. i would love to send my car to miles or someone and have them rip it all to bits and get it all tidy but like previously stated i dont have the cash.

 

hence me seeking advice on here

 

im not sure what sort of person you percieve me to be but i can assure you that i do try and fix and diagnose things before seeking help on here

Edited December 28, 2012 by Karl

[Karl 15 1 Cars]

i may have found the culprit!! after taking things apart and generally poking around, i was looking at my crankshaft sensor and looking in the hole it sits in. it looks as tho the previous owner of the gearbox has tampered with the hole the sensor sits in, it isnt very neat and is misshaped. after sticking my finger in the whole and having i feel it seems as tho the hole was drilled out or something. now im not sure but did any be1 gearboxes come with no crank sensor hole because im thinkin he has drilled it himself to acomodate a crank sensor it hasnt worked and flogged it to me on ebay ?? whats your opinions guys im hoping im wrong but it does seem highly likely

Edited December 28, 2012 by Karl

[welshpug 1,657]

stick a pictue up.

 

most BE1 boxes had crank sensor holes, I've worked on gti's on 87 reg's that did.

[Karl 15 1 Cars]

ok its a bit dark but ill have a go bare with me

[Karl 15 1 Cars]

i cant get a good enough one but trust me that hole doesnt look or feel normal comparing it to my old one on the floor next to it

[Karl 15 1 Cars]

im pretty positve its been poorley drilled or something along those lines if the sensor is not in exactly the right position would it not pick up the pulse properly and cause it not to run properly??

[ORB 227 1 Cars]

I actually fitted mine to a BE3 last night. Its not a tight fit, but its quite deffinate in the position it needs to be.

 

Can you get no one to crank it while you move it about a bit to see if she kicks up? then at least you will know?

[Karl 15 1 Cars]

thats what i did do it didnt start but it affected the way it was trying to start but i think the hole might be slightly angled so this might be why

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

Yes 1984 to 1986/7 had no hole and I have seen a couple with bodged holes in, But the keyword here is 'EBAY'