simpsonrc 3 Posted November 27, 2012 Hi, iv have got a question about the cwp for a be4. I am using a 206 gti 180 box that a am trying to put a 17x77 (4.5) crown wheel and pinion in. I have brought a 17x77 cwp that I was told would fit in my box but now I have striped my box I have found a problem. The cwp I have brought only has splines on 4’th gear where as the one from my gear box has splines all the way from 4’th to 3’rd. How do you get around this? Get the pinion shaft machined or have I got the wrong cwp out of a be3? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,661 Posted November 27, 2012 (edited) sounds like you haven't got a BE4 pinion shaft, or its intended for the maker's own gear cluster. Edited November 27, 2012 by welshpug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simpsonrc 3 Posted November 27, 2012 The crown wheel an pinion are out a some sort of standard BE gearbox, I think there from a be3. Any clues as to what I can get the correct be4 cwp out of? Thanks Steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miles 331 1 Cars Posted November 27, 2012 Normal thing of people selling parts that have no idea about I'm afraid, I run BE4 (206 GTi) gears in my own car with a 4.9 CWP in it, Reason for the 206 gears is that is what would fit onto the CWP, Some van's I think use high ratio's, finding them thou is another thing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petert 588 Posted November 28, 2012 Hi, iv have got a question about the cwp for a be4. I am using a 206 gti 180 box that a am trying to put a 17x77 (4.5) crown wheel and pinion in. I have brought a 17x77 cwp that I was told would fit in my box but now I have striped my box I have found a problem. The cwp I have brought only has splines on 4’th gear where as the one from my gear box has splines all the way from 4’th to 3’rd. How do you get around this? Get the pinion shaft machined or have I got the wrong cwp out of a be3? Why didn't you just use an Mi16 cwp? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandy 191 Posted November 28, 2012 BE3 and BE4 secondary shafts have different 3/4th gear splines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petert 588 Posted November 28, 2012 Well there's at least one GTi 180 race car running around with an Mi16 cwp...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandy 191 Posted November 28, 2012 Must be running BE3 3rd/4th/5th cluster then or a quirk spec we haven't seen Peter, because all the BE4 secondary shafts we've used have had different splines and had to be fitted with BE4 3rd/4th/5th. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simpsonrc 3 Posted November 29, 2012 (edited) Here’s a picture of the secondary shafts, left possibly be3? Right gti 180 be4. Any way after a long drive to get a cheap gearbox I now have the correct cwp so I can get it all back together. Edited November 29, 2012 by simpsonrc 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petert 588 Posted November 30, 2012 You'll need to get Adrian W to disclose how he did it. It was a bit naughty at the time, as car was supposed to be mechanically stock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spike_202 0 Posted February 7, 2017 I'm looking do the the exact same thing guys I'm. wanting to fit a circa 4.4 / 4.5 cwp trying to find one out a standard box to fit the BE4 for from a 206 gti 140 any thoughts where to start Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,661 Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) servicebox then a scrapyard Edited February 7, 2017 by welshpug 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spike_202 0 Posted February 7, 2017 I'm struggling to understand as I've been through all the Peugeot modules and non of them are down as be4 type box lol just my luck I choose the harder one to find lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
