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47degrees

Advice About This Car Please Guys :-)

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47degrees

Hi everyone, just wondered if you experts would cast an eye over a 205 before I buy it! :D

 

I hope I am ok doing this, it is 100% not my car but I do not have the experience to look at a car like this and tell if its a go-er.

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110975039965?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

 

any advice you can give me would be much appreciated

 

Regards

 

Ben

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johnnyboy666

definitely looks the part from the photos, but as always, youd need to give it a good going over when you view it. I'd also budget for a beam rebuild if it hasnt been done before.

Other than that, sounds like its been owned by an enthusiast.

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allanallen

Cambelt cover and air filter would be a good (read essential) addition IMO.

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dcc

looks red which is always a good start on the cherry's.

 

a lot of places where rust normally creeps in cannot be seen from the photos, ie behind headlamps, under boot floor carpet, below rear seats, bottom rear of the sills

 

on the down side it has wrong indicators and looks a bit low on the rear :) nothing mega

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aarontrophy

This 205 lives 10 miles from me, was set up at a company called redline tuning ( average tuning company)

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Miles

It always worries me when people say 'top tuning company' if it was that good you would name them unless I'm missing the point, Looms a mess, Oil tower pipes look abit iffy, other than that the body looks OK but as said unless you look under it, you never know

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47degrees

thanks for the replies so far guys! really helpful.

 

the chap selling is a nice bloke, i asked him what the 'bad bits' are and his reply was:

 

1) bad points? Being honest as possible! 2 things mentioned in the advert. One of the team dynamics rims has some stone chips on it. The wheels were previously on a track car that went into the gravel. (This car has never been tracked as far as I know). The corner of the rear tail gate has a slight colour difference. Looks like a small repair has been previously made. In normal light unlikely you would even find it. This is me being picky and under fluorescent lights. The bottom of the front wings have a very small amount of surface rust starting (again this is being highly picky!), bubbled paint work a very small amount. That is all I can think of. As you said it is a 23 year old car! For the age is it is in very good condition and one of the best bodies I have seen.

2)gearbox? Standard 1.9 GTi BE1

 

I just wanna make sure because its a 5 hour journey down there! :-)

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Miles

You want pics of under the rear seats, Boot floor both sides, Door shuts, Inner wings on the seam again inside and out

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47degrees

You want pics of under the rear seats, Boot floor both sides, Door shuts, Inner wings on the seam again inside and out

 

Thanks Miles, I have asked him to send me pics of the above :-)

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Baz

+ The inner sills by the fuel tank, rear bumper side mounts in the arches & front arch/inner wing seam/front panel & even better if he'll pop the headlights out & photograph the front panel.

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47degrees

HI, as you guys suggested, i requested pics of boot floor, under seat, door sills and where the front wing meets the engine bay, here are all the pics, what do you reckon?

 

http://s12.beta.phot...ees/library/205

 

106k, 1.9 on a 88 'J' on carbs, engine rebuild 1k ago, 2 1/2 billies on front billie struts on rear, MOT till may, not tax, will be paying around £1700

 

worth me shaking his had and making the 5 hour journey this weekend?

 

obviously i dont expect a mint car just a good base car

 

any advice u chaps can provide would be much appreciated :-)

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Miles

Need better ones of the engine bay, The area needed is not shown, Also with the out of focus pic of the back seat it looks like a patch of rust or something there but is a common place to rust.

With the need of a new HG, I'd be looking at £1000.00, Hard but it's a buyer's market at the moment

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47degrees

Have you looked at any others?

 

yeah been looking for a couple of weeks but struggling, tried pistonheads, ebay, gumtree, autotrader...thought there may be more on the forum for sale section but its pretty quiet at the moment

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Kev-G

With the need of a new HG, I'd be looking at £1000.00, Hard but it's a buyer's market at the moment

 

Doesn't need a HG - It's been done:

 

recently had a new original Peugeot head gasket

 

The engine now has no leaks, excellent oil pressure and compression.

 

Looks pretty clean to me, but if you're not 100% on seeing it walk away (regardless of the journey length).

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aarontrophy

1800 now its dropped in price :)

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Baz

I'm confused as to why it has a vernier pulley but standard cam. :ph34r:

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tartanbloke

yeah been looking for a couple of weeks but struggling, tried pistonheads, ebay, gumtree, autotrader...thought there may be more on the forum for sale section but its pretty quiet at the moment

 

Good things come to those who wait. I spent in excess of 12 months trying to find an original example with prominence that was not mint (over priced) but a project to restore over the next few years. A couple of weeks is nothing really and if you are not too sure, walk away.

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Baz

Also, standard top mounts on Bilstien coilovers? Not very commonly done, in fact i'm not even sure it can be.

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GLPoomobile

If it's 5 hours away and untaxed, how are you getting it back? Is he going to tax it in advance, which then surely requires a commitment from you that you will be doing the deal on the day, or will you be able to tax at the time?

 

For the price, and the journey required, you really need to demand better pictures as Miles' has said. To be fair, even if they were just taken with a boggo phone camera, those pics are pretty useless. As I tend to be cynical, I look at those inner wing photos and ask myself "what is he trying to hide?", because just about every 205 owner knows that the seam is one of the typical rust spots, and he's <conveniently> taken the piuctures from an angle that doesn't show that. The boot floor looks not too bad, providing the dark areas around the edges is just dirt rather than rust, but again, you can;t tell becuase they are blurred.

 

He may not be interested spending time taking umpteen pictures for someone who may or may not be travelling for 5 hours to buy it, but if he's a serious seller and can see that you are potentially a serious buyer then he should be obliging. For my last GTI I arranged a sale through this forum with a member who came from Manchester to London to collect it, on the basis of the photos and description I sent. Photos that were far better and far greater in quantity than what this seller has provided, and that was for a £400 deal!

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