Spoox Motorsports 205 Mi16

[ablister 31]

Yeah that would of been, there is only a couple that have the pug alloys. The rest of the pugs are shed ones. Have you seen the fat wifey in a red one? She was the first one to wave and go crazy at another 205 being on the road hahaha

 

 

 

@ablister - Is your pug an H reg? i think you and i saw each other in kdy too asda side

 

 

 

Nah, i have a J plate red 1.9 one. Also have a miami one but it's off road for now.

[gaz832 7 1 Cars]

brilliant another 205 mi16 in fife, all you guys get down to my garage and get mine running , i miss it being off the road.

[ablister 31]

brilliant another 205 mi16 in fife, all you guys get down to my garage and get mine running , i miss it being off the road.

 

what's wrong with it?

[gaz832 7 1 Cars]

wont start, have spark and fuel, battery is fine, will crank over but wont fire. its been lying for a while now as it is stripped to as it was going to get painted but funds ran low. . lost interest in the car as it wasnt running. miss driving it.

[GLPoomobile 958]

Pull yer finger out Gaz, nearly as bad as me! (doubt anyone on here could be as bad as me actually )

[welshpug 1,657]

Pull yer finger out Gaz, nearly as bad as me! (doubt anyone on here could be as bad as me actually )

 

Batfink!

[Batfink 201]

mines only been off the road since 2004....

[ablister 31]

wont start, have spark and fuel, battery is fine, will crank over but wont fire. its been lying for a while now as it is stripped to as it was going to get painted but funds ran low. . lost interest in the car as it wasnt running. miss driving it.

 

HT leads in proper order?

[gaz832 7 1 Cars]

yeah, never touched anything on it, died on me one day and it started a couple of times but whenever i put the accelerator down it just conked out again. so garaged it.

 

think ive seen your car a good few times, miami blue lowered gti6 engine? used to see it on my way to work in the morning. it went into the council depo up glenrothes.

Edited October 5, 2012 by gaz832

[ablister 31]

strange one then. AFM's can have strange effects, can remember on my old mi16 that wouldn't take the throttle and it was the AFM due to a loose connection. Have you tried swapping anything over with known working units or have you just given up completely?

 

I drive a J reg red 1.9 daily but pretty much just use it to get to my work Mon-Fri so doesn't get about alot

I also have a miami with a gti6 engine on coilovers but it's not been on road in years so wouldn't have been that one that you see!

[gaz832 7 1 Cars]

pretty much gave up, not swapped any parts yet, will try the afm tommorow make sure the flap is opening ok.

[vtifan 26]

yeah, never touched anything on it, died on me one day and it started a couple of times but whenever i put the accelerator down it just conked out again. so garaged it.

 

think ive seen your car a good few times, miami blue lowered gti6 engine? used to see it on my way to work in the morning. it went into the council depo up glenrothes.

my daughters next door neighbour in kinglassie has a miami blue,not gti6 but the 16v 2ltr out of a 406,might be that one you have seen,have never spoke to him but had a few blethers with his dad it was him that done the conversion,must be in his late 60,s and is a 205 lover lol,looks pretty standard but has an s16 badge on rear ?

[petert 586]

I can tell you that the shortened inlet manifold is very poorly done. Notice how it kinks at the weld? I've done many shortened inlets. I have a template/jig that maintains the original radius of the runners. I recently repaired an inlet that was bought from Spoox by a guy here in Sydney. It was so bad, that the inlet manifold and alternator couldn't be fitted at the same time! Inside, where it really matters, was appalling. There were big penetration dags inside which would have severely affected port flow. Goodness knows why these weren't even attempted to be cleaned up. The big fat welds on the outside of yours also tells me the TIG operator was a novice. A good manifold has nice flat welds, which are very difficult to detect after grit blasting. Only properly vee'd welding preparation can achieve that. Sorry, it's a crap job and probably why shortened inlet manifolds get bad press in the UK.

 

Also. the breather/ICV pipes are incorrect. Notice how they should cross over. The ports in the rubber duct are different.

Edited October 9, 2012 by petert

[petert 586]

This is the Spoox manifold I had to repair. You can see from the template how far out it was.

[welshpug 1,657]

eep!

[Smokey fae fife 0]

strange one then. AFM's can have strange effects, can remember on my old mi16 that wouldn't take the throttle and it was the AFM due to a loose connection. Have you tried swapping anything over with known working units or have you just given up completely?

 

Recently mine has also developed some throttle problem at the start. Sometimes it needs the throttle stabbed just to kick it into life. Could it be the Mayo doing it ? I am studying Motor Vehicle Engineering at college and the tutor there said it was to do with cold air being passed over the top of the filler cap for the oil. He

says as he had one and was pretty knowledgeable about it.

 

 

I can tell you that the shortened inlet manifold is very poorly done. Notice how it kinks at the weld? I've done many shortened inlets. I have a template/jig that maintains the original radius of the runners. I recently repaired an inlet that was bought from Spoox by a guy here in Sydney. It was so bad, that the inlet manifold and alternator couldn't be fitted at the same time! Inside, where it really matters, was appalling. There were big penetration dags inside which would have severely affected port flow. Goodness knows why these weren't even attempted to be cleaned up. The big fat welds on the outside of yours also tells me the TIG operator was a novice. A good manifold has nice flat welds, which are very difficult to detect after grit blasting. Only properly vee'd welding preparation can achieve that. Sorry, it's a crap job and probably why shortened inlet manifolds get bad press in the UK.

 

Also. the breather/ICV pipes are incorrect. Notice how they should cross over. The ports in the rubber duct are different.

 

I have tightend up the alternator this week and i found that it wasnt difficult to get to and i am shocked to hear about the inlet manifold being s*it the tutors at college were total loving the welds on it hahahaha. I wasnt too keen on how packed it does make the engine and i am going to get the breather pipes sorted asap as well. How would i be able to to sort the inlet manifold thing just now? just until i can afford to get the throttle bodies in. I am going to give the breather pipes a going over today

@ Pitcrew How easy was it to get the inlet manifold out? Your picture is the spitting image of my engine bay ( bar s*itty welding and breather pipe placement) and also do you get the mayo as well ? Being in a roasting hot climate and what my tutor said about it happening with cold air passing over. First time i have heard of pugs in Austrailia , that is awesome as f*** like.

Also would like to know if anyone has had the throttle problems that i have been getting from start up or is that part of the quirks?

 

I didnt know different as this is my first swaree into pug ownership but i am going to have it fixed as i am quite attached to my little car i want the throttle bodies onto it and also wanted to have the engine out and cleaned up also going to redo the ignition system and the brakes too as i think a seal may have popped on the master cylinder soft as s*it pedal even after bleeding #

 

Last thing i promise hahaha

 

How many people on here tighten there clutch cable? I had to tighten mine about 5 times since i installed it. and tightening it did fix the problem i was having getting into gear always ground reverse , 2nd was a pig to get into and first gear would sometimes ping out of gear upon changing to 2nd. It makes me ponder my gear linkage could be on its way out too. I seen this one here

 

http://www.kamracing.co.uk/car-tuning/peugeot/peugeot-205/transmission/gear-linkages/peugeot-205-gti-kam-racing-gear-linkages.html

 

Also if anyone has throttle bodies Jenvey or weber ones 2nd hand would be sweet not sure i can afford the full price on these and now being a student costs have to be hammered down , i do get a cracking workshop to play in , but i cant weld yet sad i know but i got the drive to learn and i am learning all the s*it in college so i can pursue a new job front. I am gutted that the course i am on is so stupid and simple after 5 weeks of being there i have taken of struts and brakes crap crap crap. and i am now going to start job hunting round fife and at performance places like falkland performance, even if it is for just experience i need it and i want my pug to get the best of help to be awesome hahaha

 

I am also surprised that no-one from spoox has peeped in a word. They cannae be as bad as what everyone makes out can they ? I never heard of them until i bought the car and it seemed the guy i bought it of had the nicest things to say about it but he was the owner after the guy who had bought it from spoox

 

At the moment i am getting s*it together for buying my gear linkage ( if that is what it needs ) and trying to see if there is some new inlet manifold options to be had and would be grateful for everyones input on here as you lot are the most knowledgeable having been or going through it

 

Cheers

[petert 586]

Here is one of my early ones.

Edited October 12, 2012 by petert

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

I don't think Darren's (spox) on this Forum, or many at all

[omega 82]

I don't think Darren's (spox) on this Forum, or many at all

 

hes on the 309 forum building a track car 309

[ablister 31]

Recently mine has also developed some throttle problem at the start. Sometimes it needs the throttle stabbed just to kick it into life. Could it be the Mayo doing it ? I am studying Motor Vehicle Engineering at college and the tutor there said it was to do with cold air being passed over the top of the filler cap for the oil. He

says as he had one and was pretty knowledgeable about it.

 

 

 

If you have to put throttle down to get it started then it could be lack of air from ICV, just check the pipes around the throttle body area. Where about are you in Glenrothes btw? PM me if you want to keep it private

[gaz832 7 1 Cars]

sure i seen the white pug, tuesday morning a think when going to work. has your 205 got standard 1.9 alloys in black. it was in the fast lane lol.

Edited October 18, 2012 by gaz832

[gaz832 7 1 Cars]

any of you guys seen the r5 turbo kicking about glenrothes. we need to surround it with our 205's . any of you go to the fife car meets. ? bet our crs would get a good bit of attention.

[ablister 31]

i've seen a couple r5's recently, one is quite often at Lidls's in glenrothes, a grey one i think which i assume is owned by someone who works there. I saw another broken down on the road between glenrothes and leven a few months ago!

 

Anyway, mine is only a std 1.9

[gaz832 7 1 Cars]

yeah seen the one at lidls. looks quite clean. the boy wasnt happy after my mate tore him up with his escort rs turbo tho. lol

[Smokey fae fife 0]

There is a white r5 kicks about round maci seen it down by southwood primary got a bodykit on it , there is the one at lidl's too havent seen that one in a while though

 

sure i seen the white pug, tuesday morning a think when going to work. has your 205 got standard 1.9 alloys in black. it was in the fast lane lol.

 

Yeah would be me, Tearing to pick up a dude i go to college with i am a sucker for rushing in late hahaha

 

Here is one of my early ones.

 

I think i need to have mine taken apart in the near future and see whats up with it hahaha

 

 

Just hope there is a non raining day to get it done, got to start thinking about winter-proofing too