Changing From 1.6 Be1 To Vts Box

[Karl 15 1 Cars]

hello there

 

as many of you know im changing my gearbox and after alot of help and advice (off many of you probably reading this thread) over my other stupid amount of threads (sorry for this it wont happen again ) i am just doing this thread for future reference so its all in the same place

 

can you just please confirm and add to this list of needed parts to convert from 205 be1 to vts:

 

1)vts box

2)swap selecter arm from 205

3)inner n/s cv cup from vts/gti6 - is this an easy change??

4)205 be3 clutch cable and pedal

5)205 vehicle speed sensor

6)205 be3 clutch arm

7)205 be3 release bearing

 

i think thats all not sure

i know this is getting boring for you guys but many thanks for all your help very very much appreciated

 

for those who dont know its for a 205 gti6

Edited September 11, 2012 by Karl

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

To do it properly you need

 

1)vts box, Yes

2)swap top selecter arm from 205, Yes, ensure this does not drop down

3)inner n/s cv cup from vts, NO you need to swap the diff or it makes changing shafts a pain in the backside, Plus why use a worn part that does not fit with the rest of the shaft

4)205 be3 clutch cable and pedal, Yes

5)205 vehicle speed sensor, No, The dual output VSS sensor if using OE management or the std 205 speedo drive and cogs if on bodies etc, or the speedo will be way out

6)205 be3 clutch arm, yes & Matching arm bearings, White or off yellow (Year dependent)

7)205 be3 release bearing, Yes

[Karl 15 1 Cars]

excellent thanks once again miles your a top guy

 

im presuming OE means original/standard

 

need to find a dual vss as im not on bodies a diff be3 clutch arm cable and pedal dont supose you have any??

Edited September 11, 2012 by Karl

[Paul_13 212 1 Cars]

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[Karl 15 1 Cars]

good man paul just need a diff and be3 clutch arm cables easily sourced

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

Those ones are a bit crappy, the neat auto's ones are better, Diff can come from your old box,

[Karl 15 1 Cars]

im not sure if its the diff cogs tht have come throught the box some small sort of triangular shaped ones

 

and what do i need the electronic part of the vss for??

[welshpug 1,666]

Tells the ecu the car is moving, you get annoying flatspots without it.

 

Also, any post 1990 205/309 clutch pedal will do, not just from be box.

[Karl 15 1 Cars]

ah ok what wire plugs into it ??

[Anthony 1,003]

The 3 pin plug that should be on your GTi-6 engine wiring loom hanging down somewhere in the vicinity of the diff.

[Karl 15 1 Cars]

hmm that may have been cut off any idea of the colours and codes ??

[Paul_13 212 1 Cars]

Hope it hasn't been. Who's done the loom?

 

It'll be a white plug with a heatshield cover thing over it

[Karl 15 1 Cars]

what like a silver pocket thing??

 

lol who did my loom you ask oh dear you deffinatley missed my previous posts about it ill tell you the story in a nutshell lol

 

needed engine change went 4 gti6 got sum1 to do it as i was busy at work he sed 2 days it took 9 months and the electrics was totally bodged when i changed my gearbox i couldnt get it running but with massive help from spiky and miles they helped me get it going again

 

been an absolute mare

[Paul_13 212 1 Cars]

That would be it.

Ok, you've had soo many posts I don't know what to look at.

 

I see, sound like a nightmare. Miles at Pugracing FTW!

 

I can see the spelling police coming along about your text talk

 

I have a project thread where i've carried out a 6 conversion, have a gander if your stuck. If you can't find what your looking for Anthony's done the same but in more detail. PM me if you get stuck

[Karl 15 1 Cars]

ok thanks paul

[petert 601]

To do it properly you need

 

1)vts box, Yes

2)swap top selecter arm from 205, Yes, ensure this does not drop down

3)inner n/s cv cup from vts, NO you need to swap the diff or it makes changing shafts a pain in the backside, Plus why use a worn part that does not fit with the rest of the shaft

4)205 be3 clutch cable and pedal, Yes

5)205 vehicle speed sensor, No, The dual output VSS sensor if using OE management or the std 205 speedo drive and cogs if on bodies etc, or the speedo will be way out

6)205 be3 clutch arm, yes & Matching arm bearings, White or off yellow (Year dependent)

7)205 be3 release bearing, Yes

 

As Miles says, that is the proper way, however, the easy bodge for point 4 is to make an extended adjusting nut, enabling you to retain the BE1 cable, pedal etc.

[Karl 15 1 Cars]

haha thats a good idea man thanks will bear this in mind if i cant get the arm

[Karl 15 1 Cars]

right all parts now sourced i am now awaiting details for payment before i start is there an easy way of swapping the selector arm over without dropping it in the box

[Anthony 1,003]

Either just be careful, or drill a small shallow hole in the top of the selector shaft and put a screw or similar in there - only need a couple of turns, just to give you something to hold

[pug_ham 245 3 Cars]

Either just be careful, or drill a small shallow hole in the top of the selector shaft and put a screw or similar in there - only need a couple of turns, just to give you something to hold

you can also use a decent magnet on a stick to do this without any need for drilling.

 

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[Karl 15 1 Cars]

excellent thanks guys been knocked back now cant find a be3 clutch arm

[welshpug 1,666]

you can buy them from peugeot/citroen.

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

You mean the pedal, You have a look at the price and you won't buy one

[Alastairh 47]

If its just the pedal you need, i may have one.

[shalmaneser 26]

As Miles says, that is the proper way, however, the easy bodge for point 4 is to make an extended adjusting nut, enabling you to retain the BE1 cable, pedal etc.

 

That's what I did, neat & easy, although a bit of a bodge (not much of one really, though)