Will A 405 Be1 Go On My Gti6

[Karl 15 1 Cars]

hi looking for a new gearbox prefferably a 1.6 just found a brand new 405 be1 gearbox for 200 quid delivered im after a be1 gearbox dont know if itll fit on my gti6?? i had a 1.6 be1 onit before so im thinking it will fit ?? whats the ratios like on the 405 be1 is it similar to tht of a 1.6 or are they longer ??

[dcc 855]

you have answered your own question. You might need to swap a gear selection arm from the 405 to the 205 item. difficulty rating : 0.

[welshpug 1,666]

yes it will fit just fine, however you will need to check if it has a crank sensor hole in the top of the bellhousing.

 

swap the top selector arm for the 205 one by knocking out the two rollpins, don't let the shaft drop into the gearbox though.

 

 

if it is from anything but an MI16 however, it's likely to have very horrible gear ratios for a 205.

[Karl 15 1 Cars]

right ok thanks guys just wanted to make sure DDC didnt want to pay for it n find out it wasnt a right fitment! i will ask the guy if its an mi16 one and if its got a crankshaft sensor hole

 

whats the ratios like on mi16 is it like a 1.6 or are they like a 1.9

[welshpug 1,666]

neither.

[Karl 15 1 Cars]

haha ok just read what i put and i should have said: are they short or long thats what i ment haha

[dcc 855]

its a mix of the 2 essentially.

[Karl 15 1 Cars]

so by that im guessing its short ratios threw 1,2 +3 and thn longer threw 4 +5 ? if thats the case thn surely this would be the best fast road option rather than a vts 1.9 or 1.6 ??

[Karl 15 1 Cars]

here is a picture of it fo those of you who can tell by looking ive noticed theres a crankshaft sensor hole in the top

 

http://i1151.photobucket.com/albums/o639/Karl_Wilde_Wright/gearbox.jpg

Edited September 9, 2012 by Karl

[Ryan 99]

That looks like a BE3 to me.

[Karl 15 1 Cars]

yes thats what i thought due to the arm inside he says its a be1 but i said are you sure of this ?? the be1 should surely have a hole with a boble for the clutch arm to pivot on like in a 205 be1

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

BE1, If you have a search you will find out the difference's

[Karl 15 1 Cars]

ah thanks miles so it is a be1 then just need to find out if it an mi16 now just awaiting reply.

 

i thought all be1's have the boble nd arm and be3's have the croshaft coming threw the top but i guess not lol

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

Nope, Ebay item I guess? so the seller will no doubt say yes as 99.9% of people have no idea of what to look for

[Karl 15 1 Cars]

right now im really confused been searcing and looking im going for an mi16 box i rekon with 1.6 acceleration and 1.9 top end to do this i need a be3 conversion release bearing pedal and cable but ive found 2 mi16 gearboxes the one ive shown and this one http://i1151.photobucket.com/albums/o639/Karl_Wilde_Wright/gearbox2.jpg is this an mi16 box ?? as it looks like a 205 be1 like miles said all mi16s have the be3 clutch system.

just really confusing me alot now lol

also can anyone see if there is a lift reverse on the previus gearbox i have posted many thanks

[Karl 15 1 Cars]

Nope, Ebay item I guess? so the seller will no doubt say yes as 99.9% of people have no idea of what to look for

 

and yes its off ebay and yes he probably will oh dear im stumped as to what to do is there anyway of telling by looking ??

[B1ack_Mi16 67]

All Mi16s did not have be3. I think from 1990 onwards they have be3, so 88 and 89 models shall have be1.

Edited September 9, 2012 by B1ack_Mi16

[petert 601]

yes it will fit just fine, however you will need to check if it has a crank sensor hole in the top of the bellhousing.

 

All Mi16 boxes have a crank sensor hole.

[welshpug 1,666]

I know, but not all be1 boxes do....

[Karl 15 1 Cars]

so what gearbox would you say the later of the 2 is on ebay the ad says mi16 but if all mi16s have the be3 set up this cant be an mi16 box as it has the 205 be1 set up

[Anthony 1,003]

Impossible to say from that picture alone, other than it's not the Mi16 'box it's claiming to be!

 

It could be from anything from a GTi to a diesel.

[Karl 15 1 Cars]

yeh thanks thats all i wanted to know i was sure it wasnt an mi16 from the info miles ahad given me thanks form confirming ant

[welshpug 1,666]

if there's a brand new box, it should have a sticker with a code on the rear side of the bellhousing just above the diff casing.

[Karl 15 1 Cars]

got a msg back and its not mi16 just a standard 1 so still on the hunt

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

The one in the last link is a std BE1 box post 1987 as it has the blanked off holes for the cross shaft which appears on the BE3 box and BE1's fitted on the Mi, but the case is very different, but not to help the cause the TD's used the same case as the Mi