Scammer On My Autotrader Advert

[Simes 248 2 Cars]

So,

 

I'm trying to sell our 206cc as we now have an E91.

My email address is published on autotrader and last night I was contacted by a potential buyer.

 

Well I had my suspicions but I thought I could have a bit of fun with him.

 

 

Here is my conversation with him

 

 

 

On 28 Aug 2012, at 18:24, waltonfrank96@yahoo.com wrote:

 

>

> Received: 28 August 2012 18:24

>

> Customer Details:

> NAME: MR Frank Walton

> TELEPHONE:

> EMAIL: waltonfrank96@yahoo.com

>

> Vehicle Details:

> MAKE: PEUGEOT

> MODEL: 206

> PRICE: ?3495

>

> Message:

> Hello,I am interested in your ADS on here please kindly get back to my personal email address thanks.

>

>

From: Simon Gravett <simongravett@hotm***.com>

To: "<waltonfrank96@yahoo.com>" <waltonfrank96@yahoo.com>

Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 12:26 PM

Subject: Re: Enquiry

 

Hello,

 

I received your email regarding our car for sale.

 

Thanks

 

Simon

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On 28 Aug 2012, at 23:30, "frank walton" <waltonfrank96@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

Hello,

thanks for getting back to me Yes I want to buy your Car please I will like you to send me more pictures of the Car and also give me more details about the condition.

Frank.

 

From: Simon Gravett <simongravett@hotm***.com>

To: frank walton <waltonfrank96@yahoo.com>

Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 11:57 PM

Subject: Re: Enquiry

 

Hello,

 

Aside from what i've highlighted in the advert it has a few small parking dings however the bodywork is in good condition. Mechanically it is also in fine fettle.

The photos on the advert show the car well, could you be a little more specific with your requests before I send a plethora of photos.

 

Simon

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On 29 Aug 2012, at 08:06, "frank walton" <waltonfrank96@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

Hello,

thanks for getting back to me again I am from Greenland. I wish to come and view the car but am out of town now.I'm a sailor and am busy working in NM . I'm satisfied with the condition. Please Email me with the actual price you are willing to sell the Car.Hope to read from you

 

soon.

Regards

Frank.

 

 

From: Simon Gravett <simongravett@hotm***.com>

To: frank walton <waltonfrank96@yahoo.com>

Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 12:18 AM

Subject: Re: Enquiry

 

Hello,

 

That is great news I'm pleased you are interested in our car.

The price I am selling it for is included in the advert along with all the other details you have asked for.

 

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 02:07:13 -0700

From: waltonfrank96@yahoo.com

Subject: Re: Enquiry

To: simongravett@hotm***.com

 

Hello ,

I Agree with price So i will be paying directly into your Bank Account without any delay. Get back to me with the details below :

 

Bank Information

Accout Holder Name;

Bank Name :

Account Number:

Swift code:

Iban:

Total Cost .

Mobile telephone number:

 

or your paypal email if you will like to use Paypal

 

once i receive the details i will go ahead with the payment through bank and then i will contact my shipping company after you get the payment. I will need your home address for the Car to be Picked Up by the Shipping Company..Have a nice day.

 

From: Simon Gravett <simongravett@hotm***.com>

To: waltonfrank96@yahoo.com

Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 2:52 AM

Subject: RE: Enquiry

 

Frank,

 

Are you sure you don't want to come and have a look at the car? Personally I would feel reassured if you did.

That way if you have any problems with the car ie. panel rust, faulty brakes or seized engine etc... anything that I might fob you off with to make a quick sale?

If not I will be happy to give you my bank details.

 

Kind regards,

 

Simon

 

On 29 Aug 2012, at 11:20, "frank walton" <waltonfrank96@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

Hello ,It is good to read from you again , like i said in my previous email I am correctly out of town and am going to be so busy, I have a private shipping company that will handle everything including the documentation required for both the exchange of ownership and the transport so you have absolutely nothing to worry about , Just get back to me with the payment details so that i can proceed ...

 

BEst Regards.

Frank.

 

From: Simon Gravett <simongravett@hotm***.com>

To: frank walton <waltonfrank96@yahoo.com>

Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 3:48 AM

Subject: Re: Enquiry

 

Hi,

 

My car is missing the flux capacitor, do you still wish to purchase the car? Therefore do you still want my banking details so your shipping company and proceed.

 

Best wishes

 

Simon

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 05:41:41 -0700

From: waltonfrank96@yahoo.com

Subject: Re: Enquiry

To: simongravett@hotm***.com

 

Get back to me with the details below :

 

Bank Information

Accout Holder Name;

Bank Name :

Account Number:

Swift code:

Iban:

Total Cost .

Mobile telephone number:

 

 

Frank,

 

Just to confirm that you still want my car? Before I give you my bank details please confirm that you want a car that has previously been driven by a horse.

I look forward to your response.

 

Kind regards,

 

Simon

 

I've not heard back from young Frank since my last reply, perhaps the internet has gone down on his ship? Maybe he doesn't want a car that was last drving by a horse??

 

Oh well it was fun whilst it lasted!

Edited August 29, 2012 by Simes

[laser_GTI 1]

Complete scam, i had the same sort of 'i'm a sailor and will pay the asking price' story when i was selling my Ford Falcon in Oz.

[GLPoomobile 958]

Are you sure that's a scam? He seems so keen and honest! Personally I'd give him your details for a quick sale

[johnnyboy666 195 1 Cars]

how does that scam work then? I assume they pay into your account, somebody else fetches the car, then they do a chargeback and say they never got the car?

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

Open up a fake account and take the money and run without supplying the car

[chipstick 382 1 Cars]

Usually they pay you with an account they unlawfully have access to. Then the funds are claimed back by the bank.

[gerry 5]

I have sold 3 cars in australia exactly by these methods, Over her it is pretty normal to put the money into some ones account wait for money to clear then ship the car.

 

My last car I did it with was my 205 gti for $7500, waited it to clear rung the fella to say it had then shipping company came and picked it up.

 

The car before that (well a few cars before that) was my hsv clubsport (vauxhall vx8r) I sold that for $25000 money went in my bank monday and the company came for it the following monday

[Simes 248 2 Cars]

Yes maybe - but this guy was going to buy my car even though I told him the flux capacitor was missing!

[kyepan 291]

still soudns dodgy

Cheers

J

Edited August 31, 2012 by kyepan

[gerry 5]

Yeah got a little dodgy there I suppose...!!

 

But from the start an 1st few lines sounded legit...

[Simes 248 2 Cars]

Yep, I've since had two more similar enquiries.......

[Pugleyrich 37 1 Cars]

I have had approximately 10 of these when selling my last 2 cars. They usually want to pay VIA paypal. Knowing how bad paypal is (they would refund the lot at a drop of a hat) I always decline. It is so annoying!

[joris_andriesse 8]

I also have seen these kind of scams while trying to sell cars. Tell them a cash sell is the only option and you will not see them again.

[Simes 248 2 Cars]

I also have seen these kind of scams while trying to sell cars. Tell them a cash sell is the only option and you will not see them again.

 

I do this, but I also have fun getting them to agree to the most ridiculous things too.

[Tom Fenton 1,541]

Somewhere on the net there is the story of a guy who played with a similar scanner, had him producing wooden carvings and all sorts, dragged it out for months!

[Anthony 1,003]

Google "419 Eater" - there's loads of amusing stories of scammers being given the run around and made a mockery of

 

Yours did make me smile though Simes I wonder how many people fall for it though, as worryingly it must be enough to make it worthwhile in the first place?

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

over on the 305 Forum, I'm sure one of them got the so called buyer to make a sign saying 'I live for the 306'

[gerry 5]

I just registered on that 419 to read the storys

[24seven 104]

That 419eater website is pure comedy gold! This has to be one of my favourites.

[Dendle89 1]

Fantastic ! this gave me joy reading this, might go find myself a scammer haha

[lewis205cti 12]

Awesome so funny. Loved the flux capacitor part.

[macaroni 17 1 Cars]

Just had a similar inquiry while selling my Alfa.

Loved the condition (only 3 pictures uploaded) and price and wanted to pay via paypal and have a shipping company collect it.

 

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[SurGie 54]

I dont know what all the fuss is about, ECP will be able to supply the flux cheap in their pre winter sale, its not like greenland people would want the roof down very often anyway.

[Simes 248 2 Cars]

Now I'm back at work I no longer have the time to wind these people up and simply reply with "don't waste my f**king time!"I