Is There A Need For New Gear Rods

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

I now make the gear rods as found in most Pug's of the 80's & 90's and the only model I havn;t done yet is the 405, If there's any intrest in these I get some set's made up, Shipping anywhere in the world is not a problem.

I;ve included a picture of what the basic rods look like, but any questions please post away

[vicki mi16 babe 0]

ive had a constant problem with mine when ive been on track...every time they come off so i would be interested

[KRISKARRERA 2 1 Cars]

What's the advantages of these then Miles? Are they an upgrade or is it just a standard replacement because the standard rods on most cars of this age are knackered?

[lemans120 0]

i think they have a retaining clip on them to stop them popping off, i would be interested could you give us a guide price as if they are not to much i will have two sets

[Jer309GTi 3]

If these have the retaining clips then I'm definately interested.

 

Slightly OT, Miles do you do the quickshift 'L' shaped bracket for a 205 with a MA gearbox?

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

They have 2 clips on these, One internal and the outer clip and these will never pop off unlike the std ones, They need a grease once a yr to keep them in tip top condition and that's it.

If someone's got a sample set to send to me theey will get a set in return at cost price

[Jer309GTi 3]

Well my cars in bits ATM, so I could send you mine. How long would you need them for?

[KRISKARRERA 2 1 Cars]

But do I need these Miles? Maybe you can have a butchers when you do my cambelt.

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

I'd only need the samples for a max of a week, I;ve got all the tool's and parts to make them up at anytime

Kris; No idea if you do but the these take out the virbration part of the std linkage and makes for a more positive change, The only thing that may happen is you may get slight virbration thru the gear stick

[Jer309GTi 3]

Ok Miles, I shall take them off tomorrow and PM you for the address to send them to. Cheers

[Jer309GTi 3]

Got the new rods today, thanks Miles. I've attached a pic of them. I should hopefully be fitting them within a couple of weeks when I put my engine/box back in and will post up how they perform

 

[pug309twin40s 1]

how much did those cost?

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

Jer309GTi had the first sample set as he provided me with the old rods to make a pattern from, As these are easier to make and post over the 205/309 ones, If I can get 5 positive orders from this site I will sell them at £40.00 delivered to your door via the post,

If I can get 10 orders the price will be £35.00

[B1ack_Mi16 67]

Jer309GTi had the first sample set as he provided me with the old rods to make a pattern from, As these are easier to make and post over the 205/309 ones, If I can get 5 positive orders from this site I will sell them at £40.00 delivered to your door via the post,

If I can get 10 orders the price will be £35.00

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Afaik there are two different style rods used on the 405.

Mine has not got the 205 style ones at least.

 

Will you be making both styles?

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

Are you sure, I've had phase 1 Mi16's and phase 2, both have had the same linkage's

[B1ack_Mi16 67]

Are you sure, I've had phase 1 Mi16's and phase 2, both have had the same linkage's

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Yeah, I'm sure, changed mine for a set of new ones from Peugeot about one year ago.

 

It's the two small rods that may differ.

 

http://cortex.fa-s.ntnu.no/~kristian/205gt...ar-rods-405.jpg

Edited October 20, 2006 by B1ack_Mi16

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

Now I;ve seen that I remember now!! But the clip on type like that are quite rare here, The amount of 16v box's I strip I can;t remember the last time I saw that type, but a good point thanks

[Guest piran21]

Update on this?

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

I have these in stock now for the std ball type,

As always I;ve just got a box in with the clip type fitting, I'll look into getting some rose joint's to fit over these

[Jer309GTi 3]

Miles, have you had experience of the rods transmitting gearbox noise into the cabin?

 

Since I've fitted the rods I can hear that the gearbox makes a slight whirring noise that sounds like it's coming from the centre console. It's definately the box as the noise goes when you press the clutch. I also fitted a set of group n engine mounts at the same time as the rods. Do you think that as the rods don't have the plastic inserts that they might transmit some gearbox noise? I didn't notice any noises before I fitted them.

 

I'm not moaning about the rods, I'm very pleased with them (nice positive gear change), just wondering if anyone had reported the same as me?

[pug309twin40s 1]

i get this with mine on my 405 is well, with uprated bottom engine mount, when it hits about 6000rpm i get alot of vibration coming through the car, gets very noisy.

[Jer309GTi 3]

This is only at low engine speeds though, I didn't get the same vibration when I had the mounts fitted on my 309 GTi

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

You where the first to recieve the rod's along with Paul a few weeks later, I have them fitted to a few 306's and have found all different thing's with different engine mount's, On mine with the Group 'N' lower mount I get slight virbration at 6500rpm (But I get this on tickover too but the engine not the rods), On a Rallye I did with OE mount's you could feel it at around the same RPM but no noise into the cabin,

I'm going to fit a set to a GTi6 I;ve just got with old mount's and see what that's like.

The 106's I;ve done too make no differance at all and they have the same type of OE rod,

Maybe it's the rubber ball that does it, Another thing I;m going to ditch and see what happen's but this will be rose jointed

[Jer309GTi 3]

Yeah, I can quite see how different cars get different results. The noise doesn't bother me in the slightest (it's not exactly loud anyway), I just wondered if anyone else had experienced this at all.

 

I'd definately recommend these rods to anyone, I remember my first 309 had worn rods, and they would always pop off just at the wrong moment, and I'd be stuck in one gear until I could pull over and put the rod back on. No chance of that happening now