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N3VRAM

Indicators Do Not Go Off After Tracking..

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N3VRAM

This is probably the stupidest thing ever asked by oh well,

 

1.Last night i done my tracking (moving the steering wheel position by taking it off in the process), however now when i turn round a corner and staighten my wheels up again the indicators stay on?

 

The tracking is still out a little bit so i'm going to get it done down the garage at the weekend - will they solve this in the process?

 

 

2. Also my steering never straightens itself back up on its own which i feel is kind of... dangerous? I think its because of this s*ite steering boss which makes my steering heavy too - anyone else experience this?

 

cheers

~matt

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welshpug

sounds like the steering boss is bottoming out on the casing of the upper column, loosen the pinch bolt to the lower column and give the wheel a tug upwards.

 

did the indicator cancelling issue start at the same time the boss was fitted?

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pug_ham
sounds like the steering boss is bottoming out on the casing of the upper column, loosen the pinch bolt to the lower column and give the wheel a tug upwards.

Surely the boss will only settle to the same height when the centre nut is retightened so it'll catch again, if this is the problem in the first place.

did the indicator cancelling issue start at the same time the boss was fitted?

If the steering wheel has only been repositioned during the tracking (incorrectly unless it was after recentering the rack) then the boss striker might just be out of position & you didn't turn the wheel far enough for it to pass the arm on the indicator stalk to cancel it.

 

g

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pugpete1108

Or the striker got snapped off by accident?

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welshpug

I think you misunderstood, I said to loosen the column pinch bolt, not the wheel retaining nut :lol:

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Anthony

Remove the steering wheel and check that the tab on the back of the wheel/boss is still present and in the correct place (should be level with the indicator stalk at straight ahead). It shouldn't really be possible to mess it up with a standard steering wheel, but an aftermarket wheel and boss it's easy to do.

 

If that's OK, check that the little arm on the indicator stalk pops out when the indicator is on, and that you can flick it off with your finger to mimic the action of the steering wheel tab.

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N3VRAM
If the steering wheel has only been repositioned during the tracking (incorrectly unless it was after recentering the rack) then the boss striker might just be out of position & you didn't turn the wheel far enough for it to pass the arm on the indicator stalk to cancel it.

 

I was putting the steering wheel back to straight after i'd finished the tracking, which was pretty pointless doing myself anyway because my 'trackrite' tacking tool is absoloutley useless (£40 ebay job). I think the likely explanantion sounds like the striker isn't in the right place so i'll have a look at this as soon as i get back and then have the tracking donw in a garge over the weekend.

 

thanks for everyones help

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Baz

I can't see the boss making the steering heavy or stopping it from self-centering, sounds more like the rack isn't centered, i.e., you have more turns one way than the other. You need to set the rack centre first so you have equal turns each way, irrelevant of the steering wheel's position, then set the tracking on the track rod ends (so you have the same amount of turns on each ideally), then fit the steering wheel where you want it, last if needs be.

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welshpug

the upper column can move up+down inside the casing, if its too low the boss will bottom out on the outer casing.

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j_turnell

Ordinarily I would say you have a castor issue if it's not self-centering properly. I take it you've checked the basics, tyre pressures steering UJ isn't bolaxed? No play in anything?

 

In terms of how youve done your tracking. You've done it a bit backwards. You should only need to move the steering wheel if the rack isn't centralised, if this is the case this should be sorted first and the steering wheel set straight. Then make adjustments to the toe.

 

If your going to take it to a garage go to a decent one that knows what there doing and has decent kit. It could be your toe is fine and you have a camber or castor problem causing it not to track straight.

 

 

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N3VRAM

Okay so i done as welshpug said - undone the pinch bolt on the steering column and gave the wheel a little tug. What a difference! The steering is MUCH lighter and the wheel self-centers which is good news.

 

There are 2 and an 8th turns on the wheel each way between the wheels being straight - so i'd say the rack is centered? I will try and adjust the toe one last time beore i take it to the garage - i might have more luck with the tool i bought now my steering wheel can actually turn.

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welshpug

AWESOME :D

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pug_ham
I think you misunderstood, I said to loosen the column pinch bolt, not the wheel retaining nut :lol:

I did but unless the lower column pinch bolt was already loose I couldn't see why it might have moved, if anything it'd move higher after you knocked the wheel off.

 

g

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welshpug

the aftermarket boss may sit deeper than the original peugeot wheel.

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pug_ham

But wasn't the aftermarket wheel already fitted & only repositioned after doing the tracking?

 

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N3VRAM

yes i haven't changed the boss and wheel, couldn't tell you why it may have 'dropped', other than everything was pretty knackard on the steering before so i changed the whole rack, consequently everything has been pulled about a bit which could of been a contributing factor i suppose..

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welshpug

ahhh, if you have changed the rack then possibly in the dismantling process the column dropped, and when the boss was re-fitted the nut was tightened a little further than previously.

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