Powder Coating Hubs

[Rippthrough 98]

I hope you're going to spray over it with some clear Plastikote to keep those evil stone chips away.

[Tom Fenton 1,541]

 

So here they are assembled with new bearings. I'm more than pleased with the results.

[ALEX 98 1 Cars]

I had my only my hub carriers Powder coated and the hubs Zinc plated.

At the time I was thinking the thickness of the coating would affect the offset of the wheel mounting.

But looking back, I think I was thinking too much into it!

[Tom Fenton 1,541]

So I've also had a few bits plated now to go with my powdercoated parts. I was very worried about this all flaking off just like the powder coating but I got the dog to check them and she seems to think they are OK so that is good enough for me.

 

One of my pet hates is the "boss" of brake discs looking horrid and rusty through the wheel hence I've had a new pair of discs plated. The plate is only 20 mic thick so the pads will soon fetch it off.

[Darrens205GTI 10]

Nice job on the brake parts, was that very expensive? I've often thought of having that done on my other cars as I hate rusty brake hubs. Think I'll do it for the Pug though.

[Tom Fenton 1,541]

Not expensive at all, my old man dropped them off and picked them up for me, and paid the bill as my early birthday present!

[Tom Fenton 1,541]

 

I am rather pleased with these.

[cRaig 273 1 Cars]

Very smart! Pad carriers have come up very well, they look new! Am going to have to make sure my laser stays clean for next years pugfest or its going to get shown up!

Edited July 3, 2012 by cRaig

[Tom Fenton 1,541]

I would not worry too much, I am sure I will run out of enthusiasm fairly soon! I have to say it was rather satisfying putting them together, I am waiting for a pair of new caliper pistons to finsh them off now.

[Tesstuff 222]

Look lovely Tom, and top idea getting your dog to check the quality for you, can't quite tell the breed from the photo but looks a bit like a Georgian Shepherd and I know they are the ultimate breed to check the standards of anything.

[Edp 67 3 Cars]

 

So here they are assembled with new bearings. I'm more than pleased with the results.

 

 

How did you get the bearings back in without scratching the hell out of the powder coat?

[Tom Fenton 1,541]

Carefully! Soft card on the press to sit the hub on.

[CosKev 16]

Very nice

 

The only thing I would say about powdercoating cast items IME is that they need derusting in something like Bilt Hamber Deox-C after blasting.

My trailing arms on 309 beam rusted after a few months of powdercoating when they were only blasted before coating.

I asked advice from my local platers and he explained that blasting cast pushes some of the rust into the cast and does not remove it all.

Hence it needs soaking/sweating to remove the rust from the pores.

[thug pug 7 1 Cars]

Loving the plated brake caliper bridges makes my effort look a bit pants.

 

Rab E.

[Tom Fenton 1,541]

Thanks Rab, but having looked at your white CTi on Sunday then I've a long long way to go to get anywhere near your standard.

[ALEX 98 1 Cars]

So I've also had a few bits plated now to go with my powdercoated parts. I was very worried about this all flaking off just like the powder coating but I got the dog to check them and she seems to think they are OK so that is good enough for me.

 

One of my pet hates is the "boss" of brake discs looking horrid and rusty through the wheel hence I've had a new pair of discs plated. The plate is only 20 mic thick so the pads will soon fetch it off.

 

Are you sticking new rubber back to the little strut top hats (two little hat shape things to the left below the pad spring clips).

Mine came back with the rubber still on.

[Tom Fenton 1,541]

Are you sticking new rubber back to the little strut top hats (two little hat shape things to the left below the pad spring clips).

Mine came back with the rubber still on.

 

That was in fact my fault, I blasted it off when I sandblasted them. i've since ordered a new pair from Peugeot with the rubber in tact.

[ALEX 98 1 Cars]

Mine survived the blasting process (not done by me)

The plating doesn't affect it, but the rubber did look like it had a rougher finish from the blasting.

[Tom Fenton 1,541]

I need to talk to my plater man to see if he can plate straight onto the new ones, or if I need to sandblast the plate off them first...they come from peugeot silver but I want them yellow to match all the other stuff.

[ALEX 98 1 Cars]

It's a gold zinc plating, mine could only do silver,

Would have thought they could though. I had same issue with my other restoration before and ended up buying new ones.

 

From experiance anything below half way down the engine bay, all the powder coating didn't fair too well (about 3 winters before it started to look naff again)

The sump ended up leaking out of a rusty hole in the side where the coating blisted causing a leak.

This time I've done the sump zinc.but because it's going to be a summer car most of the other bits are still powdercoated.

[Tom Fenton 1,541]

Likewise this car will see use on nice summers days only, so I hope all this effort will remain nice for some time.

[Redtop 14 2 Cars]

It's a gold zinc plating, mine could only do silver,

Would have thought they could though. I had same issue with my other restoration before and ended up buying new ones.

 

From experiance anything below half way down the engine bay, all the powder coating didn't fair too well (about 3 winters before it started to look naff again)

The sump ended up leaking out of a rusty hole in the side where the coating blisted causing a leak.

This time I've done the sump zinc.but because it's going to be a summer car most of the other bits are still powdercoated.

 

Ive 3 of my sumps done plated silver and they have lasted ok. They do look abit tired after 3-4 years but they're exposed to all the dirt off the road.

 

What you will find is that some places won't do the yellow plating because when doing the yellow/gold they use a certain material /mineral (I just can't remember ATM) that can't be used on new modern cars. When manufactures like Peugeot build a car there has to be a certain % recyclable/ biodegradable parts and there is only supposed to be a very small % of this in the cars 1% iirc. With yellow plating it boosts this to over 3% which is why you get silver and other types of plating now. For restoration though yellow is fine. That's what the people that supply the chemicals to the plating company I use told me, as I by my acid from them, to pre clean my parts before plating.

[Daviewonder 533 3 Cars]

So this gold plating is called yellow zinc plating is it? From what I've read it doesn't last long on an every day car. Would it be possible to maybe get the parts Galvanized and then Zinc plated for better protection?

[Tom Fenton 1,541]

So this gold plating is called yellow zinc plating is it? From what I've read it doesn't last long on an every day car. Would it be possible to maybe get the parts Galvanized and then Zinc plated for better protection?

 

No you are correct, it would not really be worth going to this effort on a car that would be used in wet weather or over winter with salt on the roads.

The problem with Galvanizing is that typically the term means hot dip zinc coating, this is great for corrosion protection, but best suited to gates and railings etc, as you basically dip the item to be coated in a bath of molten zinc, giving a thick coating. Not good for small or delicate bits as it just smothers all the detail, fasteners for example will no longer fit, holes get filled up, you can get big thick drops on edges etc. A mate of mine has recently restored an early Land Rover, these did have galvanized parts on, such as bumpers etc, but it is an industrial looking finish, not really suited to a Peugeot IMO. I had my front gates done before I had them powdercoated, great for them, but bits of brackets and suspension parts would look a right mess.

[Daviewonder 533 3 Cars]

Cheers Tom.

 

Might look into other ways of protecting parts of an every dayer. I guess powder coating would be a lot harder wearing. Anyone know the truth in 205 shells being galanized?